Jason and Rich reunite for the first time since November 2023 to discuss the blockbuster to end all blockbusters with Luka shipped off to Los Angeles.

In this episode, we explore prior trades in NBA history to compare with this one, discuss the various reasons why this trade differs from nearly all major trades in NBA history, identify which players historically measure up to Luka through his age 25 season, and give some appreciation to Anthony Davis, who is an excellent player, even though he isn't Luka Doncic.

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In this episode of the Over and Back Classic NBA Podcast, Jason and Rich talk about the history of fall trades in the NBA.

We'll discuss Damian Lillard's move to Milwaukee, James Harden's setting sail for the Los Angeles Clippers then dive into NBA history with some of the most famous fall trades ever including:

• The Ewing Era in New York Ends
• The Spurs get Dennis the Menace
• Expansion Franchises Reset
• Iverson goes to the Motor City but Denver revs up
• Golden State Muscles-Up To Win A Title
• Nets get Tiny, lose Doc; Tiny gets hurt
• Cavalier Clyde
• Celtics don't want McAdoo
• Sixers want Mo' Mo' Mo'
• Bucks and Clippers swap rotations
• Ice joins Air Jordan
• Reign Man flees to the Cleve
• Pippen kisses Houston goodbye
• Melo joins Russ and PG in OKC
• The Butler did it (left the Timberwolves)
• Mitchell to the Cavs

The focus this time is on the last four seasons, which have seen 18% of all 50-point games in league history. They discuss the recent surge in 60-point games and new additions to the 70-point game club.

They also explore why there has been such a significant increase in 50-point games over the past few years, whether this trend is unprecedented, who is most likely to break the all-time 50-point game record, and more. 

Previous 50-point game episodes

• 50-point games in the 1950s: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/e7bc494f-cbe1-4a48-9b4c-334c7b184793
• 50-point games in the Wilt era: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/8d28ba92-183c-461d-8a2e-49dc33b683b4
• 50-point games in the ABA era: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/6d93f254-0fae-4040-b349-674a73d3507e
• 50-point games in the post-merger era: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/bd36e30b-775f-407b-94af-68939cd1255f
• 50-point games in the Michael Jordan era: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/1bba3806-fc1b-4481-b5e0-53e07a897849
• 50-point games since 2000: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/ddc43904-a0ec-40fb-a5e4-212d70b5bcc3
• Most unlikely 50-point scorers: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/537771d4-9624-441c-bb97-a86e3dfb7112
• Surprise! These NBA stars never scored 50 in a game: https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/ep/7725c072-8867-46d0-8652-10e7c2c1f306

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However, we're not sure people are quite understanding just HOW great Jokić was during both the 2023 NBA Finals and the entire 2023 playoff season.

Join the Over and Back Classic NBA Podcast as we explore the very real possibility that Nikola Jokić just had one of the greatest playoff runs in NBA history.

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Thanks to the heroics of two-time NBA MVP Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, Michael Porter Jr, Aaron Gordon, and coach Michael ("Don't Call Him Mike") Malone, the Nuggets are finally in the finals! 

In this episode, we will look back on the franchises’ history. It’s a fascinating one with bouts of futility, innovations, and experiments of the game, lost superstars, and now, finally, NBA Finals glory.

In tribute to his remarkable legacy, Over and Back has put together a special episode chronicling Reed's journey from a second-round pick to a two-time NBA Champion with the historic New York Knicks. The episode delves into the top 10 most significant games of his career, including his NBA debut on October 17, 1964, his first 40-point game, his first 50-point game, his outstanding 30-30 playoff performance, and his unforgettable Game 7 performance in the 1970 NBA Finals.

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In this episode, we'll examine the Hall of Fame players of post merger-era teams:

• Utah Jazz
• Dallas Mavericks
• Charlotte Hornets
• Miami Heat
• Orlando Magic
• Minnesota Timberwolves
• Toronto Raptors
• Memphis Grizzlies
• New Orleans Pelicans

Part 1 (Early Teams): https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/episodes/dae62199-003e-4388-934f-786dc010b9d8?_ga=2.21616445.749597334.1667843031-433710308.1625083894

Part 2 (Expansion): https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/episodes/be4700f5-27e2-4d78-a604-d89547d5f05c?_ga=2.200124654.1762814695.1678918051-433710308.1625083894

We'll discuss how LeBron did it, major milestones in his career, previous NBA all-time leading scorers, what other records LeBron may be able to break and if anyone playing today has a chance to break James' record.

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The best-attended games ever, the worst-attended games, who had the best overall attendance in a decade, who had the worst, and so much more.

(Unfortunately, Reinis Lācis couldn't join us this year but we're working on a replacement watch along with him very soon!)

This year, we watched a very important game in NBA history as the Dallas Mavericks received their rings on opening night which was also Christmas Day? Wait what? Yes, due to the NBA lockout, the 2011-12 season was condensed to just 66 games which meant the season began on Christmas Day.

In this episode, we discuss the reasons for the lockout, how the Big 3 Miami Heat re-tooled in the offseason, how the Dallas Mavericks cheaped out and immediately saw disastrous results along with several other discussions about the NBA past and present.

Join us for our holiday special, a night of laughs, nostalgia and so much more.

Watch along with us at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8hfVMO3UYU.

In this episode, we'll examine the Hall of Fame players of expansion-era teams:

• Chicago Bulls
• Seattle Supersonics/Oklahoma City Thunder
• Houston Rockets
• Denver Nuggets
• Indiana Pacers
• San Antonio Spurs
• New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets
• Phoenix Suns
• Milwaukee Bucks
• Portland Trail Blazers Blazers
• Los Angeles/San Diego Clippers/BuffaloBraves
• Cleveland Cavaliers

Part 1 (Early Teams): https://redcircle.com/shows/daf88270-7ba5-4c13-bbfd-3c8c5d363b9d/episodes/dae62199-003e-4388-934f-786dc010b9d8?_ga=2.21616445.749597334.1667843031-433710308.1625083894

We'll discuss each & every Hall of Fame player to have played for a particular franchise, Hall of Fame players drafted or acquired but never played for the franchise, all possible future Hall of Fames, what-if scenarios in each franchise's history, and finally the ultimate hipster and ultimate cool-kid Hall of Fame jersey.

This episode focuses on the early teams in NBA history:

• Knicks
• Hawks
• Celtics
• 76ers
• Lakers
• Kings
• Pistons
• Warriors
• Bullets/Wizards

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With help from Stathead.com's powerful tools, we can find statistical lines and achievements only accomplished by one player in NBA history: Wilt Chamberlain.

When you search for times in NBA history a player scored 62 points and had 32 rebounds in a game, you'll only get one result: Wilt (https://stathead.com/tiny/PytSC)

When you search for players with 72 points and 20 rebounds in a game, you'll only get one result: Wilt. (https://stathead.com/tiny/3fcmP)

31 points, 40 rebounds: Wilt. (https://stathead.com/tiny/HDEVh)

21 points, 21 rebounds, 21 assists: Wilt. (https://stathead.com/tiny/FbCuf)

You get the idea! Join us as we dive into Stathead.com's tools to find #OnlyWilt stats.

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• Michael Jordan
• Dirk Nowitzki
• Kevin McHale
• Dwyane Wade
• Gary Payton
• Artis Gilmore

Plus bonus research on Triple Doubles from our friends at Stathead.com!

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Believe it or not, more than you may think! 

Thanks to Stathead.com, we took Durant's 2022 scoring average (29.9 PPG) and found every season in NBA and ABA history where a player averaged over 29.9 PPG: https://stathead.com/tiny/1N74Y. From there, we looked at each player that was traded the year after their elite scoring season and talked briefly about how and why they were traded, how the teams and players fared after their trades and more!

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RussellMania

For more Bill Russell discussion, listen to the 13-part series on Russell's career we recorded six years ago. 

• Part 1: A brief overview of Russell's career and his unparalleled success
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-introduction-to-our-bill-russell-seri
• Part 2: Bill Russell's era-defining rivalry with Wilt Chamberlain
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-wilt-and-bill-good-friends-better-ene
• Part 3: The amazing legacy of Bill Russell and the Celtics
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-amazing-stats-of-the-celtics-dynasty
• Part 4: Bill Russell's revolutionary impact on sports, as well as other NBA pioneers
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-revolutionaries-of-the-nba
• Part 5: Bill Russell and the Celtics' battles with the St. Louis Hawks and Bob Pettit
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-celtics-vs-hawks-in-the-finals
• Part 6: Bill Russell and the Celtics' battles with Elgin Baylor, Jerry West and the Lakers
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-celtics-vs-lakers-in-the-finals
• Part 7: Bill Russell and his activism and life after retirement
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-the-man-the-activist-the-coach
• Part 8: Bill Russell and the Celtics vs. Dolph Schayes and the Syracuse Nationals
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-playoff-battles-celtics-vs-nationals
• Part 9: Bill Russell and the Celtics vs. Wilt Chamberlain and the Warriors
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-playoff-battles-celtics-vs-wilts-warr
• Part 10: Bill Russell and the Celtics vs. Oscar Robertson and the Cincinnati Royals
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-playoff-battles-celtics-vs-oscars-roy
• Part 11: Bill Russell and the Celtics vs. Wilt Chamberlain and the 76ers
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-playoff-battles-celtics-vs-wilts-76er
• Part 12: The last years of the Bill Russell Celtics dynasty
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-playoff-battles-celtics-vs-knicks-pis
• Part 13: End of the series and some of our favorite stories from Bill Russell's career
  https://omny.fm/shows/over-and-back-stories-about-nba-history/russellmania-series-wrap-up-your-questions-more

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On this episode of Over & Back, Jason and Rich rank NBA dynasties! What dynasties belong in which tier, absolute Tier 1 locks, whether the 2000s Lakers are one dynasty or two, how to classify the Tim Duncan spurs, single-player dynasties and so much more. 

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Join Jason and Rich as they look at each and every champion in NBA, ABA, BAA and NBL history and determine who the best player on each of those teams are. 

We'll look at each and every champion in NBA, ABA, BAA and NBL history and determine who the best player on each of those teams are. 

Some teams won't have a debate, we all know who that guy is but there are a ton of teams with some real cases to be made for multiple players. We'll explore all of that in this series. 

This is a big topic so we're doing two shows — Part 1 will go through the 1974 season. 

We begin with an overview of Lanier's career, beginning with his illustrious college career at St. Bonaventure, his record-breaking Detroit Pistons' career, being overshadowed by Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and others, finally helping the Pistons return to the playoffs, his eventual trade to the Milwaukee Bucks and, finally, his last few years in the league. 

We'll also cover a handful of notable games in Lanier's career, record-breaking performances, career-highs & more. 

Lastly, we'll look at a few anecdotes, fun trivia & his important post-playing career, his tenure as president of the NBA Player's Union, and more. 

Two examples this year with the Brooklyn Nets being swept in the first round after gaining (and losing) James Harden (and never getting Ben Simmons to replace him) and the Los Angeles Lakers winning only 33 games after adding Russell Westbrook.

Teams we'll focus on this episode: 

• 1971 Atlanta Hawks
• 1999 Houston Rockets
• 1975 Memphis Sounds
• 2013 Los Angeles Lakers
• 1976 Washington Bullets
• 2014 Brooklyn Nets
• 1976 & 1977 New York Knicks

To celebrate the occasion, we're going to do what we do best, we're going to talk about some guys and specifically some guys with NBA records revolving around the number 300.

• Players with exactly 300 games played in their career
• Players with exactly 300 minutes played in their career
• Players with exactly 300 minutes played in a season
• Players with exactly 300 points scored in their career
• Players with exactly 300 points in a season
• Players with exactly 300 rebounds in a season
• Players with exactly 300 assists in a season
• Players with exactly 300 steals in a season
• Players with exactly 300 blocks in a season
• Players with exactly 300 turnovers in a season
• Players who shot exactly .300 from the field in a season
• Players with exactly 300 fouls in a season
• Games in which exactly 300 points were scored
• & more! 

Thank you to everyone who has listened to us over the years, we really appreciate it! Here's to 300 more. 

Moving forward, the contest would embrace its ability to feature the young, great athletes in the NBA. No longer was it an embarrassment that top stars didn’t want to participate, the contest had moved past that point and instead would look to the future and look to the rising stars, both literally and figuratively, of the NBA.

Vinsanity didn’t just bring the dunk contest back, he ensured for generations to come that it would never and could never leave again.

We're celebrating Episode #100 of the Over and Back Podcast and what better topic to cover than Wilt Chamberlain's 100 point game on March 2, 1962, in Hershey, Pennsylvania. To ensure we kept it "100" we uncovered 100 facts about Wilt's 100 point game. Facts and tidbits include a look at where the game ranks all-time statistically, anecdotes about many of the players involved including Al Attles, Paul Arizin, Tom Meschery, Guy Rodgers, "Jumpin'" Johnny Green, York Larese, Darrall Imhoff, Cleveland Buckner and many more.

We tell the fascinating tale of Ermo and Evo Ionni, the iconic "100" picture and what happened to the game ball. Lastly, we look back at March 2, 1962 in history with a peek at the Peanuts Comic strip of the day, who was on the cover of that day's TIME magazine, what famous rock star was born on this very day and, of course, Billboard's Number One song.

To celebrate this one-of-a-kind anniversary, Jason and Rich are joined by Gary Pomerantz—author of Wilt, 1962: The Night of 100 Points and the Dawn of a New Era (https://amzn.to/3KacqQs)—to discuss Chamberlain's record-breaking night. 

Topics included the added mythology of the game not being televised, what happened to the game ball, how Wilt and his teammates celebrated the accomplishment, Wilt's larger than life personality and play, what surprises newer fans when they first find out about this game, Chamberlain's influence on today's game and so much more! 

The Last Pass: Cousy, Russell, the Celtics, and What Matters in the End: https://amzn.to/3tf0sy4

Jordan, the NBA and the slam-dunk contest would never be the same again.

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch of the Over and Back Classic NBA Podcast welcome special guests Curtis Harris (http://ProHoopsHistory.substack.com) and Micah Wimmer (https://twitter.com/micahwimmer) for a live watch-along of the 2001 NBA All-Star Game.

One of the greatest all-star games in NBA history, Allen Iverson, Vince Carter and the Eastern Conference All-Stars lead an improbable comeback in this thrilling, down-to-the-wire game.

Topics on the show include:

• Why Jones was nicknamed Mr. Clutch
• Jones' 10 NBA titles (second only to Bill Russell)
• 25-2 all-time playoff series record
• Becoming the Celtics scoring leader
• Bridging the gap of two Celtics dynasties
• An improbable journey to the NBA
• Standing up to injustice 
• Why Jones had to wait so long to make the Basketball Hall of Fame
• 10 games that defined Sam Jones' career
• and so much more! 

This year, we'll be watching the 1987 Christmas Day showdown between the Detroit Pistons (15-5) and New York Knicks (8-16). There is plenty to talk about on this show as the Knicks have missed the playoffs three years in a row and have brought in a new coach (Rick Pitino).

A rookie point guard Mark Jackson is looking to solidify the Knicks lineup while one has to wonder if Patrick Ewing will ever lead a winner in New York. In the Motor City, the Pistons have been to two Eastern Conference Finals in the last four years but haven't been able to get over the hump and make a run to the NBA Finals.

They have one of the best records in the league and look great so far. Is this the year they finally make it?

Join us for our holiday special, a night of laughs, nostalgia, drinking games and so much more.

Watch along with us at https://youtu.be/TEogAwqpLEE

We never did! But today, we change that. 

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch do a deep dive into the longest win streaks in NBA history including the Los Angeles Lakers' all-time record 33-game win streak, the Golden State Warriors 28-game streak over multiple seasons (and debate if it should count), the Big 3 Miami Heat's 27-game streak, the Houston Rockets improbable 22-game streak in 2008 and the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar-led Milwaukee Bucks putting up a 20-game streak in 1971.

We'll also touch on an early win streak record from the Washington Capitols as well as the longest postseason win streaks of all-time including the Warriors, Spurs, Nets and Cavaliers. 

We'll give our thoughts on the rollout of the team, a brief history of anniversary teams, players on multiple all-time teams, players new to the NBA's 75th-anniversary team, the NBA righting wrongs with Bob McAdoo and Dominique Wilkins then finally the biggest snubs including Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard and many more. 

• Steph Curry on pace to become the NBA's all-time leading three-point shooter
• LeBron James' climb up the all-time ranks in several categories
• Dwight Howard vaulting up the total rebounds leaderboards
• The potential for Giannis Antetokounmpo and Curry to join an elite list of three-time MVPs
• Chris Paul's all-time assist and steals potential
• Kevin Durant getting to 25,000 points
• Rudy Gobert becoming a four-time Defensive Player of the Year 
• and more! 

We'll also discuss the longest in-season holdouts in NBA history in relation to Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving, some retired numbers news including the Memphis Grizzlies franchise finally retiring numbers, and the switch from Spalding to Wilson for the official game ball. 

Players featured in this episode include: 

• Rick Adelman
• Chris Bosh
• Bob Dandridge
• Toni Kukoc
• Paul Pierce
• Bill Russell
• Ben Wallace
• Chris Webber

We'll discuss the basic history of NBA free agency, key free-agency situations before 1977 then do a deep dive into the 1977-1980 offseasons with major signings, crazy compensations, and deals that would have historical ramifications. 

• Cliff Hagan (1957)
• Jerry West (1962)
• Julius Erving (1976)
• Larry Wright (1979)
• Dennis Johnson (1985)
• Michael Jordan (1997)

Shots discussed in this episode include:

• Tom Heinsohn concluding the very first Russell vs. Wilt playoff series in 1960
• Kawhi Leonard's baseline jumper hits the rim four times before finally falling in and moving the Toronto Raptors past the Philadelphia 76ers in 2019.
• Jo Jo White's anti-climatic free-throw series clincher in 1974 against the Buffalo Braves
• Michael Jordan puts a dagger in the Cleveland Cavaliers' hearts again. This time in 1993.
• Ralph Sampson helps the young Houston Rockets upset the juggernaut Los Angeles Lakers in 1986.
• After years of failing to clinch their ticket to the NBA Finals, John Stockton hits a wide-open three to give the Utah Jazz their first finals berth in 1997. 

This multi-part series will take a deep dive into each and every playoff buzzer beater in NBA history. We start with episode one focusing on first-round series clinchers including:

• Derrick McKey's alley-opp to help the 1989 Seattle Supersonics upset the Houston Rockets
• Michael Jordan's iconic shot over Craig Ehlo that stabbed the city of Cleveland in the heart and helped the Chicago Bulls take the next step towards an NBA championship
• Damian Lillard's famed .9 shot against Dwight Howard, James Harden and the Houston Rockets
• Damian Lillard waving good by the Oklahoma City Thunder competitive window as he sends Russell Westbrook and Paul George out of town with one incredible (or as George put it: bad) shot. 

In this episode, we'll explore four more of the longest sub .500 streaks in NBA history including not one but TWO twelve-year streaks from the Los Angeles Clippers, an unfortunate run of bad luck and bad ownership from the Golden State Warriors and finally, the Dallas Mavericks ten-year slide in the 90s.

In this brief episode, we'll talk about Eaton's defensive prowess, his unlikely path to the NBA, his accomplishments in the league and more. 

In this episode, we'll explore four of the longest sub .500 streaks in NBA history including two appearances from the Sacramento Kings franchise in both the 80s & 90s as well as their current streak of futility.

We'll also look at the Detroit Pistons franchise and their struggles from the late 50s through 1970. Finally, we'll look at a recently broken (then continued) streak of sub .500 futility with the Minnesota Timberwolves' run of losing from 2006 to 2017. 

In each segment, we'll discuss the history each franchise has with losing, how they got to this point, the number of times they made the playoffs during the streak, major franchise events, the bright spots and best players during the streak, the number of coaching changes as well as the best and worst season of the streak.  

We'll look at six different players that were traded and the reasons for the trade, how they created a legacy with the franchise that traded them and finally how the trade worked out for the player and the franchise. 

• Trading your legend when you probably shouldn't: Dominique Wilkins
• Sending your legend back home: Clyde Drexler
• After a trade request (not a demand): Jack Sikma
• Time for a new era/refresh: Jason Kidd
• Trying to upgrade: Peja Stojakovic
• Saying goodbye to a cult favorite: Muggsy Bogues

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As the new generation of basketball players — players like Magic, Bird and Dr. J — took their mantle as the league’s stars, basketball’s faster and flashier style of play would captivate TV audiences. But along that way to wealth and stardom, the excess of the ‘80s took its toll on the next generation of the sport as Reaganomics created an explosion in wealth for the richest members of American society. Crack and cocaine made its way through neighborhoods where aspiring basketball players lived. Cars were faster and car accidents took the lives of several players. Guns became easier to acquire. Health care and education budgets were slashed. Incarceration took over rehabilitation as the country’s guiding principle to addiction. Many players were suspended and jailed, and those less fortunate died. 

Those that made it through became overnight superstars for an eager and demanding audience of TV and media coverage, but never in the history of any sport have we seen so many who were ready to become household brands lost in such a short time frame.

Why? How? And Who?

This is what this show will look into. This is DEATH AT THE WING.

Topics include:

• An overview of Baylor's illustrious but snakebitten career
• Baylor's status as one of the NBA's most underrated players ever
• Baylor's revolutionary style of play and influence on the game of basketball
• Baylor's tumultuous high school and college career
• Saving the Lakers franchise
• Baylor's battles with racism and All-Star Game boycott
• Baylor's famous service-shortened 1962 season
• Surviving a plane crash with his Lakers teammates
• Major injuries and the unknown world of sports medicine
• A bittersweet retirement
• Baylor's post-playing coaching and front-office careers.

Additional Resources:

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Our guest on this show was Bijan C. Bayne, author of the incredible book "Elgin Baylor: The Man Who Changed Basketball." You can order the book today at https://amzn.to/3980dLP.

We will have a full episode dedicated to Baylor coming out later this week. 

Thank you.

We discuss the Boston Celtics vs. Los Angeles Lakers NBA Finals rivalry between 1959 and 1969 with Bijan C. Bayne, author of “Elgin Baylor: The Man Who Changed Basketball,” in our continuing #RussellMania series dedicated to the life and legacy of Bill Russell.

We break down each of their seven NBA Finals battles (1959, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1968 and 1969), talk about Elgin Baylor's rise to superstardom and his role in popularizing basketball in Los Angeles, Baylor's revolutionary influence on offensive play, the basketball and social parallels of Russell and Baylor, how Baylor was the first NBA player to boycott a game because of segregation, Baylor's relationships with longtime teammate Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain, some of the other key Lakers of the 1960s (including Frank Selvy, Rudy LaRusso, Tom Hawkins, Hot Rod Hundley, Dick Barnett, Leroy Ellis, Gene Wiley, Walt Hazzard, Bob Boozer, Archie Clark, and Gail Goodrich), what Don Nelson's failure in Los Angeles and success in Boston said about both teams, and much more.

Original airdate: 4/19/16

The show concept is inspired by the 2021 Utah Jazz who are currently on a 63-win pace after only winning 44 games the prior year. 

Our criteria: 

• At least a 10-game improvement and have to be a winning team the second season
• No coaching change between seasons
• No major stars added between seasons
• Some of this is subjective -- sorry if we missed your favorite team!

In this episode, we'll highlight a few of the teams that made huge jumps with background on the years leading up to the jump and what may have aided the improvement. We'll also do a decade-by-decade breakdown of other teams that made unexpected improvements. 

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Today we'll look at the last great games from:

• Julius Erving (Sixers)
• Steve Nash (Suns, Lakers)
• Charles Barkley (Rockets)
• Wilt Chamberlain (Lakers)
• Walt "Clyde" Frazier (Cavs)
• David Robinson (Spurs)

Some of these include historic longevity records from Vince Carter, Jamal Crawford’s potential to become an all-time shooter, Chris Paul continuing to cement his claim as one of the best point guards of all-time and LeBron James’ ascension to greatest of all-time status.

Before diving into this year’s potential records and milestones, we look back at what records, streaks and milestones took place last season including Klay Thompson’s all-time three-point game, James Harden’s unbelievable three-point totals, a random day in January that became one of the all-time great shooting days in NBA history, Russell Westbrook’s triple-double streaks, a bevy of 50-point games, Dirk Nowitzki and Carter tying for most NBA seasons played, Gregg Popovich’s rise up the coaching win ranks and his San Antonio Spurs making the playoffs for a record-tying 22 seasons.

For the upcoming 2019-20 NBA season, we look at LeBron James’ continued rise up the all-time scoring leaderboard, players that will enter the 20,000-point scored club, Carter becoming fourth all-time in games played, James entering the top 10 in games started, Curry’s quest to become the most prolific three-point shooter of all-time, Dwight Howard passing Hakeem Olajuwon in rebounds (no, seriously), Paul’s assist/steal records and much more!

Second Team:
Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
Carmelo Anthony

Third Team:
Dwyane Wade
Kobe Bryant
Paul George
LaMarcus Aldridge
Giannis Antetokounmpo

Topics include a look at who made the team and why, who shouldn’t have been named to any of the three teams, reactions to Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade’s inclusions, whether Kawhi Leonard or Russell Westbrook should have made the First Team, where to place Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin’s surprisingly great decade, how Giannis Antetokounmpo made himself a contender for this list in just a few years, as well as notable snubs from the list like Al Horford, Kevin Love, Damian Lillard, Dwight Howard, Tim Duncan and more!

We also take a statistical look at the list using basic numbers in addition to advanced stats (Win Shares, WS/48, Box Plus-Minus) but also weigh historical significance, narratives, All-Star games, All-NBA team berths and more to determine who belongs and who is getting the boot.

Lastly, we discuss the changing and evolving NBA during this decade and potential topics for future episodes including All Mid-Decade Teams, looks at other All-Decade teams and more.

Who better than Rich Kraetsch, co-host of the Over and Back Classic NBA Podcast, to lend some historical expertise to the proceedings? We start with the only six-overtime game in NBA history (Indianapolis vs. Rochester in 1951), a 75-73 pre-shot-clock yawner in which future legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman reportedly played 76 minutes and scored 3 points. We also discuss the only two five-OT games: Dolph Schayes leading Syracuse past Anderson (Ind.) 125-123 in the newly merged NBA's first season in 1949, and Dale Ellis scoring 53 points for Seattle in a 155-154 loss to Milwaukee.We also look at a 1953 Boston-Syracuse battle with Bob Cousy scoring 50 points, Bill Walton's first NBA game between Cleveland and Portland in 1974, Julius Erving with a career-best 63 for the Nets against the San Diego Conquistadors in 1975, Cleveland giving Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar everything they could handle in 1980, Fast Eddie Johnson coming through in the clutch for Atlanta vs. Seattle in 1982, Jim Paxson scoring 41 for Portland over the pre-Jordan Bulls in 1984, Joe Barry Carroll caring a lot for Golden State against New Jersey in 1987 and Phoenix (with Jason Kidd, Kevin Johnson and Steve Nash) topping Isaiah Rider's Trail Blazers in 1997.In addition, we discuss more recent four-overtime thrillers: Joe Johnson and the Hawks topping Millsap and the Jazz in 2012, and Detroit getting the better of Chicago in 2015.

The decision to not include active players like Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Elgin Baylor

A deep dive on some of the lesser-known nominees for the team, including Bob Feerick, Tom Gola, Slater Martin, George Yardley, and Max Zaslofsky

The fact that 1971 was the 25th anniversary of the founding of the BAA, not the formation of the NBA in 1949 -- thus ignoring the legacy of the NBL, one of two predecessor leagues for the NBA

The background of the selection committee that chose the nominees for the team, including Celtics coach/GM Red Auerbach, Knicks president Ned Irish, and Warriors owner Eddie Gottlieb, and how their biases may have shaped the selections

Players who seem to have been overlooked in the process, including Cliff Hagan, Jack Twyman, and Larry Foust

Who Jason and Rich would have chosen for their Silver Anniversary teams

Topics include how we define a great game, the criteria used in selecting the last great game for these players and what was happening with the player and their team at the time.

More specifically, we delve into Kareem's ability to remain a solid contributor into his final season and what could have happened if he hung around, Kobe Bryant's now-legendary 60-point sendoff, Kevin Garnett's last hurrah with the Celtics, Detroit Pistons Allen Iverson (yes, that was a thing), Moses Malone's Milwaukee Bucks era, George Mikan's final productive seasons, Hakeem Olajuwon's final game in Houston, Dennis Rodman's rare scoring outburst and Isiah Thomas giving the Boston Celtics fits one more time.

Easily one of the longest playoff rivalries ever between the Philadelphia 76ers and Boston Celtics, a rivalry that began before the 76ers were, the 76ers. Jason and Rich delve into the history of this playoff feud, the transcendent games and players involved in the playoff matchups and their recent battles.

The Pelicans try to avoid a sweep in Anthony Davis' and the franchises assumed coming out party

The surprisingly deep playoff rivalry between the Jazz and Rockets which included four huge NBA Finals determining matchups in the 90s. 

To date, only four teams have won at least 50 games for five straight seasons, maintained an SRS of 3 or better and still didn't make the NBA Finals: the 1981-87 Milwaukee Bucks, the 2001-05 Dallas Mavericks, the 2008-12 San Antonio Spurs and now, the 2013-17 Los Angeles Clippers. We explore the makeup of each of these teams, notable failures, key transactions, their best shots at a championship and much more.

Lastly, we dive into our honorable mentions including teams that averaged over 60% win percentage for 5 or more seasons, but didn’t make an NBA Finals appearance.

Trades that are discussed include: Oscar Robertson to the Bucks in 1970, Jack Marin for Elvin Hayes in 1972, George Gervin to the Spurs in 1974, Spencer Haywood in 1975 and Bob McAdoo in 1976 to the Knicks, and the infamous franchise swap between the Boston Celtics and San Diego Clippers in 1978.

Original airdate: 8/5/16

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch talk about the Celtics adjusted to old age, how the Knicks rebuilt after nearly a decade of struggles, how the overlooked Pistons found success with Dave Bing, and John Havlicek becoming the Celtics’ best player. They also discuss Willis Reed, Bill Bradley, Em Bryant, Bailey Howell, Walt Bellamy, Dave DeBusschere and more.

Original airdate: 6/8/16

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch talk about Philly fans adjusting to cheering a hated former Syracuse Nationals rival, the trade to bring Chamberlain back home, how Wilt meshed with Hal Greer and Chet Walker, Dolph Schayes being too nice to coach, the Celtics making NBA history with a starting lineup of five black players, how the Sixers built a 67-win team that dethroned the Celtics, and how the aging Celtics returned fire with victories in 1968 and 1969.

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch talk about Robertson’s brilliance beyond simply his legendary triple-double season, how he smashed the record books, how the Royals were an example of some of the bush-league aspects of the 1960s NBA, the relationship between Robertson and Russell, other key Royals including Jerry Lucas and Jack Twyman, and more.

We also share stories of how Celtics broadcaster Johnny Most nearly lost his dentures during a game, the disappearing 7-foot-3 Swede Halbrook, players who both played in the MLB and NBA, plus the contributions of Paul Seymour, Hal Greer, Larry Costello, George Yardley, Ed Conlin, Al Bianchi, Earl Lloyd, and, most importantly, pay tribute to the one-minute career of Forest “Frosty” Able.

Original airdate: 5/3/16

Players and teams include Derrick Rose's ACL tear in 2012 closing the Chicago Bulls' title window, Oklahoma City's run to back-to-back Finals being handed a blow when Russell Westbrook went down, John Havlicek's injury preventing Boston from becoming the pre-eminent dynasty of the 70s, Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson in 1987 and 1988 respectively, Chris Webber and Dirk Nowitzki in 2003 as well as many more.

Original airdate: 4/27/16

We discuss the events of Russell's childhood that shaped his life including his mother's death when he was 12, the unique way he developed his game on defensive, his time at the University of San Francisco, the significance of him rejecting the Harlem Globetrotters and blazing a trail for black NBA superstars, how he dealt with racism among fans and media members, speaking out against NBA quotas of black players, visiting Mississippi during the Freedom Summer in 1964, his views on Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, writing a Sports Illustrated article in support of Muhammad Ali, his work to support integration in Boston schools, why he opposed signing autographs and rejected the Basketball Hall of Fame, his post-playing life trying to break into Hollywood, and his stints coaching the Seattle Supersonics in the 1970s and Sacramento Kings in the late 1980s, and much more.

Original airdate: 4/25/16

We break down each of their seven NBA Finals battles (1959, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1968 and 1969), talk about Elgin Baylor's rise to superstardom and his role in popularizing basketball in Los Angeles, Baylor's revolutionary influence on offensive play, the basketball and social parallels of Russell and Baylor, how Baylor was the first NBA player to boycott a game because of segregation, Baylor's relationships with longtime teammate Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain, some of the other key Lakers of the 1960s (including Frank Selvy, Rudy LaRusso, Tom Hawkins, Hot Rod Hundley, Dick Barnett, Leroy Ellis, Gene Wiley, Walt Hazzard, Bob Boozer, Archie Clark, and Gail Goodrich), what Don Nelson's failure in Los Angeles and success in Boston said about both teams, and much more.

Original airdate: 4/19/16

We go through the Celtics vs. Hawks NBA Finals battles from 1957, 1958, 1960 and 1961, and talk about some of the great performances and players on both sides of the rivalry, one of the greatest Game 7s in NBA history, why the Russell for Cliff Hagan and Ed Macauley trade wasn’t as one-sided as you might think, Bob Pettit delivering one of the best series-clinching games ever, the Celtics’ stability contrasting with the ever-changing Hawks, why the Hawks ended up failing in St. Louis, and thoughts on Red Auerbach, Tom Heinsohn, Slater Martin, Alex Hannum, Bob Cousy, Bill Sharman, Sam Jones, Clyde Lovellette and Lenny Wilkens, among many others.

Original airdate: 4/12/16

Topics include Reggie Miller's famous duels with Patrick Ewing, John Starks and the New York Knicks, Manute Bol, Magic Johnson's HIV diagnosis, heroic All-Star Game performance (and of course The Magic Show), Shaquille O'Neal's onslaught on the game, the Golden State Warriors' Run TMC, the NBA's venture into Canada as well as a look at the crazed 1996 Free Agency period, Utah's rise to prominence and last but certainly not least, some stuff about that Michael Jordan guy and the Chicago Bulls.

Joined by Cleveland native and contributor to Bearded Gentlemen Music & IGoHardNow Mike Scherf, Jason and Rich discuss both LeBron's and the Cavaliers' development, improvement and evolution from 2004 to 2010. We discuss major transactions during that period and how the players and coaches fit around LeBron. Larger scale topics include the ownership change in 2005, the firings of coach Paul Silas and general manager Jim Paxson, the transition to Danny Ferry and Mike Brown, pivotal free agent/draft mishaps and much more.

Original airdate: 2/24/16

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch are joined by Adam Johnson of Basketball Pantheon on this episode of the Over and Back Classic NBA podcast. Each of us tried to create a perfect roster of professional players to match up with the formidable 1992 squad. For 1968, we debated how a team led by Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain and Rick Barry would match up.

For 1980, we looked at a team that would include Bird, Magic, Julius Erving, Moses Malone, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and George Gervin.

For 2004, we considered a squad led by Kobe Bryant, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan and Shaquille O'Neal and who would best fit alongside them.

For 2016, we mulled over a talent-rich squad led by Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, LeBron James, James Harden, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony. Which year would make the best team? Could any of them handle the 1992 Dream Team?

Jason Mann and guest host Adam Criblez talk about the 1977-1991 Los Angeles Clippers, 1995-2006 Golden State Warriors, 2005-2015 Minnesota Timberwolves, 1987-1996 Sacramento Kings, 1991-2000 Dallas Mavericks, 1975-1983 Utah Jazz, and more. Topics discussed include bad drafting histories, terrible ownership, close calls to the playoffs, longest suffering players and how they broke their streaks.

Jason Mann and Rich Kraetsch debate a handful of their favorite candidates who are on the border of making their list: Bob Cousy, Isiah Thomas, Allen Iverson, Manu Ginobili, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Reggie Miller, Adrian Dantley, Dennis Rodman, Elvin Hayes, Dave Cowens, Willis Reed, Pau Gasol, Bob Lanier and Patrick Ewing.

Original airdate: 10/15/15

Jason Mann, Rich Kraetsch and Professor of History at Southeast Missouri State University Adam Criblez (@AdamCriblez) discuss Gilmore's high volume/high efficiency style, his stellar defensive reputation, where he fits among centers of his era, if he's unfairly slotted behind Kareem, Moses and Wilt or if he deserves to be in the same conversation. Lastly, we discuss how much we value his ABA numbers compared with his NBA, how to properly judge ABA numbers and much more.

Topics include discussing what we value the most when trying to determine who should be in the Top 50: statistics, reputation, team accomplishments, innovation, influence and more. They then go through the slashers and forwards named in the original list and where they’d stand if a list was made today — who’s in, who’s out and who’s on the bubble? They discuss the cases of Clyde Drexler, George Gervin, James Worthy, Paul Arizin, Scottie Pippen, Billy Cunningham, Dave DeBusschere, Kevin McHale, Elvin Hayes, and Jerry Lucas.

The last topic focuses on guards named in the original list and where they'd stand if a list was made today — who's in, who's out and who's on the bubble? Over the offseason, Over and Back will examine the careers of every possible Top 50 candidate, past and present, with historians, writers and basketball experts. At the end, we'll make our picks for a new Top 50 list.

Over the offseason, Over and Back will examine the careers of every possible Top 50 candidate, past and present, with historians, writers and basketball experts. At the end, we'll make our picks for a new Top 50 list.

Original airdate: 7/7/15