RedCircle VERIFY_TOKEN_c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94 -- Rendered At Tue, 12 May 2026 05:35:47 +0000 Unpacked- with Anna & Emma https://redcircle.com/shows/unpacked-with-anna-and-emma en-US All rights reserved. Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa *Unpacked with Anna & Emma* is a podcast for diplomatic partners navigating a life in constant transition. Each episode dives into the real, unfiltered experiences behind global moves- from identity and purpose to the moments of doubt and quiet growth along the way. If you’ve ever felt like you’re more than the supporting role or tired of shrinking to fit someone else’s story, this space is for you. We explore what it takes to feel grounded when life keeps shifting and how to start showing up fully, wherever you are in the world. c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94 Unpacked with Anna & Emma is a podcast for diplomatic partners navigating a life in constant transition. Each episode dives into the real, unfiltered experiences behind global moves- from identity and purpose to the moments of doubt and quiet growth along the way.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re more than the supporting role or tired of shrinking to fit someone else’s story, this space is for you. We explore what it takes to feel grounded when life keeps shifting and how to start showing up fully, wherever you are in the world.

]]> episodic no Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa unpacked.podcast25@gmail.com no full Ep 24: From Diplomat Child to Diplomat Spouse A Conversation with Shaden and the Story Behind Adam the Tiny Diplomat Ep 24: From Diplomat Child to Diplomat Spouse A Conversation with Shaden and the Story Behind Adam the Tiny Diplomat Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In this special episode we are joined by Shaden, who has experienced diplomatic life from three unique perspectives. She grew up as a diplomat child, later became a diplomat spouse, and is now raising her own children within this globally mobile life.

Drawing on her personal journey across countries, cultures, and life stages, Shaden shares how those experiences eventually inspired her to write a children’s book, Adam the Tiny Diplomat, a story created to help children understand movement, belonging, and what it means to call many places home.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How Shaden turned her family’s lived experience into a story that could support other children navigating diplomatic life
  • The courage it takes to reinvent yourself creatively and step into authorship


If you would like to get in touch with Shaden her instagram is @Shaden_Kraishan

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Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>In this special episode we are joined by <strong>Shaden</strong>, who has experienced diplomatic life from three unique perspectives. She grew up as a diplomat child, later became a diplomat spouse, and is now raising her own children within this globally mobile life.</p><p>Drawing on her personal journey across countries, cultures, and life stages, Shaden shares how those experiences eventually inspired her to write a children’s book, <em>Adam the Tiny Diplomat</em>, a story created to help children understand movement, belonging, and what it means to call many places home.</p><p>In this episode we talk about:</p><ul><li>How Shaden turned her family’s lived experience into a story that could support other children navigating diplomatic life</li><li>The courage it takes to reinvent yourself creatively and step into authorship</li></ul><p><br></p><p>If you would like to get in touch with Shaden her instagram is @Shaden_Kraishan</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> c14b3b25-9f80-4761-9da9-7dffddd1d354 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/81510be3-16dd-4987-9785-1fc48a13e039 Tue, 05 May 2026 03:00:36 +0000 2658 no full Ep 23: Raising Babies Overseas Building Support and Community in Diplomatic Life Ep 23: Raising Babies Overseas Building Support and Community in Diplomatic Life Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Welcoming a baby is a life-changing experience wherever you are in the world. Doing so overseas can bring both beauty and challenge as you navigate early parenthood while being far from familiar support systems.

In this episode, we explore what it looks like to care for and raise babies abroad and the role that community, or the absence of it, plays in that experience.

Anna shares her personal journey of having her three children in three different cities, with and without family support.

In this episode, we explore:

- The importance of familial support and what happens when it is not available

- How to build your own community and support network from scratch

- Ways to ask for help, receive support, and create a sense of connection during this stage of life

Even when family is far away, support and connection can still be built around you.

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Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p><span>Welcoming a baby is a life-changing experience wherever you are in the world. Doing so overseas can bring both beauty and challenge as you navigate early parenthood while being far from familiar support systems.</span></p><p><span>In this episode, we explore what it looks like to care for and raise babies abroad and the role that community, or the absence of it, plays in that experience.</span></p><p><span>Anna shares her personal journey of having her three children in three different cities, with and without family support.</span></p><p><span>In this episode, we explore:</span></p><p><span>- The importance of familial support and what happens when it is not available</span></p><p><span>- How to build your own community and support network from scratch</span></p><p><span>- Ways to ask for help, receive support, and create a sense of connection during this stage of life</span></p><p><span>Even when family is far away, support and connection can still be built around you.</span></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 41ac6ca7-9e41-4e18-8f61-c9c9c1c8e8da https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/08060d09-1877-4739-adc0-daa17bb5281d Tue, 21 Apr 2026 03:00:21 +0000 1733 no full Ep 22: Navigating Pregnancy Overseas Starting Your Parenting Journey in Diplomatic Life Ep 22: Navigating Pregnancy Overseas Starting Your Parenting Journey in Diplomatic Life Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa We are beginning a new series on pregnancy and parenting in diplomatic life and in this first episode we start at the very beginning of the journey.

Pregnancy can feel vulnerable and life-changing wherever you are in the world. Experiencing it overseas adds another layer of complexity as you navigate unfamiliar healthcare systems, distance from family, and the emotional realities of growing a family far from what feels known.

In this episode, Emma shares her personal story of navigating pregnancy both overseas and in her home country and reflects on the differences between the two experiences.

In this episode, we explore:

  • What it is like to move through pregnancy in two different healthcare systems
  • How to manage travel, medical appointments, and practical logistics while overseas
  • The physical and emotional needs that can feel amplified when you are far from your usual support network


This episode is an honest conversation about beginning your parenting journey in diplomatic life, honouring your needs, and recognising that there is no one right way to navigate pregnancy across borders.

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Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>We are beginning a new series on pregnancy and parenting in diplomatic life and in this first episode we start at the very beginning of the journey.</p><p>Pregnancy can feel vulnerable and life-changing wherever you are in the world. Experiencing it overseas adds another layer of complexity as you navigate unfamiliar healthcare systems, distance from family, and the emotional realities of growing a family far from what feels known.</p><p>In this episode, Emma shares her personal story of navigating pregnancy both overseas and in her home country and reflects on the differences between the two experiences.</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>What it is like to move through pregnancy in two different healthcare systems</li><li>How to manage travel, medical appointments, and practical logistics while overseas</li><li>The physical and emotional needs that can feel amplified when you are far from your usual support network</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This episode is an honest conversation about beginning your parenting journey in diplomatic life, honouring your needs, and recognising that there is no one right way to navigate pregnancy across borders.</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> b95b8360-ebff-44a9-9ed9-4179963ab6cf https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/b1530f93-b374-4d7d-9afc-614961ecc254 Tue, 07 Apr 2026 03:00:35 +0000 1919 no full Ep 21: Making Your Career Work Overseas Practical Tools for Diplomatic Partners Ep 21: Making Your Career Work Overseas Practical Tools for Diplomatic Partners Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Once the decision to move overseas has been made, a new question often follows quickly: how do I make this life work for me too? Wanting to support your partner does not mean you have to abandon your own professional identity or sense of direction.

In this episode, we move from reflection into action and share practical tools to help you feel prepared, empowered, and less lost when navigating career decisions abroad.

In this episode, we explore:

  • The difference between portable skills, portable jobs, and portable careers and why this distinction matters
  • Common barriers to working overseas including visas, qualification recognition, and local pay structures
  • How to realistically assess your options before you arrive at post
  • How to bridge the gap when you first arrive so you do not feel untethered or directionless


This episode is about taking ownership of your professional life within diplomatic constraints, setting yourself up for possibility rather than pressure, and remembering that preparation is not about control but confidence.

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🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>Once the decision to move overseas has been made, a new question often follows quickly: how do I make this life work for me too? Wanting to support your partner does not mean you have to abandon your own professional identity or sense of direction.</p><p>In this episode, we move from reflection into action and share practical tools to help you feel prepared, empowered, and less lost when navigating career decisions abroad.</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>The difference between portable skills, portable jobs, and portable careers and why this distinction matters</li><li>Common barriers to working overseas including visas, qualification recognition, and local pay structures</li><li>How to realistically assess your options before you arrive at post</li><li>How to bridge the gap when you first arrive so you do not feel untethered or directionless</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This episode is about taking ownership of your professional life within diplomatic constraints, setting yourself up for possibility rather than pressure, and remembering that preparation is not about control but confidence.</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> ce0fab20-03ac-4f4b-9144-fb54407d9742 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/421fbac5-4cc0-48b0-a6ac-baf487ad29e8 Tue, 24 Mar 2026 04:00:07 +0000 2175 no full Ep 20: Anna’s Experience of Drawdown Navigating Crisis and Uncertainty in Diplomatic Life Ep 20: Anna’s Experience of Drawdown Navigating Crisis and Uncertainty in Diplomatic Life Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Sometimes diplomatic life brings moments of sudden disruption when plans change overnight and stability disappears. Drawdowns can be one of the most challenging experiences for partners as uncertainty, safety concerns, and emotional strain collide all at once.


In this episode, Anna shares her recent experience of being drawn down from Beirut and reflects honestly on what it was like to navigate such a sudden and intense transition.


In this episode, we explore:

- How sudden change can impact your sense of control, stability, and identity

- The tools Anna is using to support herself through uncertainty and disruption

-Ways to care for your mental and emotional wellbeing during times of crisis

-Why community and shared understanding matter so much during difficult periods


This episode is especially for partners across the Middle East who may be navigating similar realities and looking for grounding, support, and reassurance during challenging times.


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Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@notjustaspouse.com | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p><span>Sometimes diplomatic life brings moments of sudden disruption when plans change overnight and stability disappears. Drawdowns can be one of the most challenging experiences for partners as uncertainty, safety concerns, and emotional strain collide all at once.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, Anna shares her recent experience of being drawn down from Beirut and reflects honestly on what it was like to navigate such a sudden and intense transition.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, we explore:</span></p><p><span>- How sudden change can impact your sense of control, stability, and identity</span></p><p><span>- The tools Anna is using to support herself through uncertainty and disruption</span></p><p><span>-Ways to care for your mental and emotional wellbeing during times of crisis</span></p><p><span>-Why community and shared understanding matter so much during difficult periods</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>This episode is especially for partners across the Middle East who may be navigating similar realities and looking for grounding, support, and reassurance during challenging times.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span></span>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@notjustaspouse.com | zestie.carrd.co</p> 3913151c-2121-4442-90cd-1824ec7cd050 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/bf439f77-9068-424f-bdf0-ff45bf1825da Tue, 10 Mar 2026 04:00:02 +0000 2337 no full Ep 19: Do I Give Up My Career to Go Overseas for My Partner? Ep 19: Do I Give Up My Career to Go Overseas for My Partner? Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa One of the biggest and most emotionally complex questions partners face in this lifestyle is whether to put their own career on pause in order to move overseas. It is a question layered with identity, expectation, sacrifice, and love and one that rarely has a simple answer.

In this episode, we dig deep into the reality behind that question and explore what career, fulfilment, and purpose can look like within diplomatic life even when a traditional job is not available or accessible.


In this episode, we explore:

- The unspoken pressure many partners feel to step back professionally when moving abroad

- How to untangle your identity from your job title and reconnect with what truly fulfils you

- What purpose and meaning can look like beyond paid work

- How expectations around career can shift throughout a posting and over time

- Ways to create a sense of fulfilment, contribution, and growth even without formal employment


This episode is a conversation about honouring your needs, and building a meaningful life on your own terms no matter what your career looks like.


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Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p><span>One of the biggest and most emotionally complex questions partners face in this lifestyle is whether to put their own career on pause in order to move overseas. It is a question layered with identity, expectation, sacrifice, and love and one that rarely has a simple answer.</span></p><p><span>In this episode, we dig deep into the reality behind that question and explore what career, fulfilment, and purpose can look like within diplomatic life even when a traditional job is not available or accessible.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, we explore:</span></p><p><span>- The unspoken pressure many partners feel to step back professionally when moving abroad</span></p><p><span>- How to untangle your identity from your job title and reconnect with what truly fulfils you</span></p><p><span>- What purpose and meaning can look like beyond paid work</span></p><p><span>- How expectations around career can shift throughout a posting and over time</span></p><p><span>- Ways to create a sense of fulfilment, contribution, and growth even without formal employment</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>This episode is a conversation about honouring your needs, and building a meaningful life on your own terms no matter what your career looks like.</span></p><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> e9d04179-c30a-42e3-9139-9554cdad0bbf https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/79879727-936a-4829-943d-1d427a2c8cf7 Tue, 24 Feb 2026 04:00:02 +0000 1600 no full Ep 18: Navigating Uncertainty and Control at Post From Arrival to Departure Ep 18: Navigating Uncertainty and Control at Post From Arrival to Departure Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Arriving at post often comes with a rush of adjustment, learning, and emotional overload. Just as things begin to feel familiar, the posting shifts again and new challenges emerge. By the time the end approaches, uncertainty can return in a different form, bringing reflection, restlessness, and anticipation of what comes next.


In this episode, we complete our conversation on uncertainty and focus on how it shows up at every stage of a diplomatic posting from arrival, through the middle years, and toward departure.


In this episode, we explore:

- What uncertainty looks like when you first arrive at post and how to ground yourself during the initial adjustment phase

- How control and stability can feel different in the middle of a posting and the challenges that often arise once the novelty wears off

- Why the end of a posting can bring unexpected emotions including disconnection, pressure, and anticipatory grief

- Tools to support your wellbeing when circumstances shift and plans feel out of your hands


ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p><span>Arriving at post often comes with a rush of adjustment, learning, and emotional overload. Just as things begin to feel familiar, the posting shifts again and new challenges emerge. By the time the end approaches, uncertainty can return in a different form, bringing reflection, restlessness, and anticipation of what comes next.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, we complete our conversation on uncertainty and focus on how it shows up at every stage of a diplomatic posting from arrival, through the middle years, and toward departure.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, we explore:</span></p><p><span>- What uncertainty looks like when you first arrive at post and how to ground yourself during the initial adjustment phase</span></p><p><span>- How control and stability can feel different in the middle of a posting and the challenges that often arise once the novelty wears off</span></p><p><span>- Why the end of a posting can bring unexpected emotions including disconnection, pressure, and anticipatory grief</span></p><p><span>- Tools to support your wellbeing when circumstances shift and plans feel out of your hands</span></p><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> de6e4f04-bef2-4bd3-b841-f40fb4470be4 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/e6ca76c7-1044-4adc-905e-2327d2fcfee4 Tue, 10 Feb 2026 04:00:16 +0000 2925 no full Ep 17: From Bidding to Arrival- Choosing a Post Without All the Answers Ep 17: From Bidding to Arrival- Choosing a Post Without All the Answers Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa One of the most challenging parts of diplomatic life is being asked to make life-shaping decisions long before you have the full picture. From bidding on posts to preparing for arrival, you’re often required to commit while so much still feels uncertain.

In this episode, we continue our conversation on uncertainty and focus on decision-making within the diplomatic posting cycle- even when information is incomplete.

In this episode, we explore:

  • How to approach bidding on posts without overthinking every possible outcome
  • Why getting clear on your needs, desires, and non-negotiables is more important than trying to predict the future
  • What to consider when thinking about your day-to-day life, not just the headline of a posting
  • What shifts once you’ve been offered a post and how to move into deeper research with clarity and curiosity
  • Why you are always allowed to change your mind and how reclaiming that choice can help you feel empowered and in control


This episode is about making grounded, values-led decisions throughout the posting process, trusting yourself through uncertainty, and remembering that agency and flexibility can coexist in diplomatic life.

ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>One of the most challenging parts of diplomatic life is being asked to make life-shaping decisions long before you have the full picture. From bidding on posts to preparing for arrival, you’re often required to commit while so much still feels uncertain.</p><p>In this episode, we continue our conversation on uncertainty and focus on <strong>decision-making within the diplomatic posting cycle- even when information is incomplete</strong>.</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>How to approach bidding on posts without overthinking every possible outcome</li><li>Why getting clear on your needs, desires, and non-negotiables is more important than trying to predict the future</li><li>What to consider when thinking about your day-to-day life, not just the headline of a posting</li><li>What shifts once you’ve been offered a post and how to move into deeper research with clarity and curiosity</li><li>Why you are always allowed to change your mind and how reclaiming that choice can help you feel empowered and in control</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This episode is about making grounded, values-led decisions throughout the posting process, trusting yourself through uncertainty, and remembering that agency and flexibility can coexist in diplomatic life.</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> bfe1861b-b4aa-4996-82be-2de76984d92d https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/f0ad8774-defb-4d27-ab9e-6cddf6bb8472 Tue, 27 Jan 2026 04:00:45 +0000 2244 no full Ep 16: Living in the Waiting Room- Coping with Uncertainty & Last-Minute Change Ep 16: Living in the Waiting Room- Coping with Uncertainty & Last-Minute Change Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Uncertainty is one of the hardest, and most invisible, parts of this lifestyle. Not knowing if a move will happen, when it will happen, or having plans change at the last minute can leave you feeling stuck in limbo, unable to fully move forward or settle where you are.

In this episode, we talk honestly about what it means to live in the “waiting room” of diplomatic life. That in-between space where decisions aren’t yours to make, timelines keep shifting, and your nervous system is constantly on alert.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Why uncertainty feels so destabilising and emotionally draining
  • What happens when plans change at the last minute and how to emotionally recover
  • Practical tools to help you cope with uncertainty, ground yourself in the present, and reclaim a sense of agency, even when nothing feels certain


ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>Uncertainty is one of the hardest, and most invisible, parts of this lifestyle. Not knowing <em>if</em> a move will happen, <em>when</em> it will happen, or having plans change at the last minute can leave you feeling stuck in limbo, unable to fully move forward or settle where you are.</p><p>In this episode, we talk honestly about what it means to live in the “waiting room” of diplomatic life. That in-between space where decisions aren’t yours to make, timelines keep shifting, and your nervous system is constantly on alert.</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>Why uncertainty feels so destabilising and emotionally draining</li><li>What happens when plans change at the last minute and how to emotionally recover</li><li>Practical tools to help you cope with uncertainty, ground yourself in the present, and reclaim a sense of agency, even when nothing feels certain</li></ul><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 6c507a55-3753-4d6f-8719-f27ba15aacdb https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/e39fb317-ded1-4225-be76-c6c20b3de2dd Tue, 13 Jan 2026 04:00:26 +0000 2581 no full Ep 15: Our End-of-Year Wrap up – Pride, Gratitude & Lessons Learned Ep 15: Our End-of-Year Wrap up – Pride, Gratitude & Lessons Learned Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa As the year closes, it’s tempting to jump straight into what’s next. But before we move forward, there’s so much value in pausing to honour the growth, challenges, and the victories that shaped your year.


In this episode, we reflect on three powerful questions:

✨ What are you proud of this year?

✨ What are you grateful for this year?

✨ What did this year teach you?

We share our own reflections, honestly, unplanned and straight from the heart.

We would love for you to complete your own end-of-year check-in. This is your moment to acknowledge how far you’ve come and to step into a new year with a big smile!

We’d love to hear your reflections. Truly—we’re your biggest cheerleaders. Share them with us using the contact information below.


ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p><span>As the year closes, it’s tempting to jump straight into what’s next. But before we move forward, there’s so much value in pausing to honour the growth, challenges, and the victories that shaped your year.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, we reflect on three powerful questions:</span></p><p><span>✨ What are you proud of this year?</span></p><p><span>✨ What are you grateful for this year?</span></p><p><span>✨ What did this year teach you?</span></p><p><span>We share our own reflections, honestly, unplanned and straight from the heart. </span></p><p><span>We would love for you to complete your own end-of-year check-in. This is your moment to acknowledge how far you’ve come and to step into a new year with a big smile!</span></p><p><span>We’d love to hear your reflections. Truly—we’re your biggest cheerleaders. Share them with us using the contact information below.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</span></p><p><span>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</span></p><p><span>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</span></p><p><span>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</span></p> 8332efdc-c04c-4793-bd7d-f8cd388cbc50 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/49168632-a0c1-4d3c-ae5d-3891c6205d70 Tue, 30 Dec 2025 03:36:23 +0000 2392 no full Ep 14: The Magic Formula for Thriving Abroad- A Special Conversation with Giulia Ep 14: The Magic Formula for Thriving Abroad- A Special Conversation with Giulia Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Some people seem to glow in this lifestyle, no matter the posting, the upheaval, or the uncertainty. Giulia is one of those people. With multiple relocations, drawdowns, representational roles, motherhood across continents, and an evolving career, she has not only navigated diplomatic life… she has thrived in it.


In this episode, we explore the “magic formula” behind how she does it:

- How Giulia maintained her sense of identity while supporting a partner’s career

- How she navigates raising children across borders.

- The boundaries and daily practices, rituals, and choices that keep her grounded, confident, and connected

-AND most importantly what her one magic ingredient is to thrive in this lifestyle


This episode is a warm, honest look into what it really takes to flourish as a diplomatic spouse.


ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>Some people seem to glow in this lifestyle, no matter the posting, the upheaval, or the uncertainty. Giulia is one of those people. With multiple relocations, drawdowns, representational roles, motherhood across continents, and an evolving career, she has not only navigated diplomatic life… she has thrived in it.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we explore the “magic formula” behind how she does it:</p><p>- How Giulia maintained her sense of identity while supporting a partner’s career</p><p>- How she navigates raising children across borders. </p><p>- The boundaries and daily practices, rituals, and choices that keep her grounded, confident, and connected</p><p>-AND most importantly what her one magic ingredient is to thrive in this lifestyle</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is a warm, honest look into what it really takes to flourish as a diplomatic spouse. </p><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</p><p><br></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 3b0f8a64-4a0c-4506-8ac5-a7ce83cbf610 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/aba15d26-d643-478f-b579-46fce9f97eb8 Tue, 16 Dec 2025 04:27:06 +0000 2413 no full Ep 13: Finding Your People Abroad- Why Adult Friendships Are Hard & How to Build Them with Ease Ep 13: Finding Your People Abroad- Why Adult Friendships Are Hard & How to Build Them with Ease Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Moving to a new country can make you feel like you’ve been dropped into someone else’s life overnight. In those early months, everything is unfamiliar and yet, one of the biggest determinants of your wellbeing is also the hardest to prioritise: friendship.


As adults, making friends isn’t effortless anymore. It takes energy, vulnerability and timing. And when you’re settling into a new posting, it can feel both essential and overwhelming.


In this episode, we explore:

-Why adult friendships feel harder to build — especially when your identity is in transition

-The role of community in grounding you emotionally during those first few months abroad

-Why finding “your people” matters for your sense of belonging, confidence, and stability

-What stops us from prioritising friendships even when we’re craving connection

-How to build friendships that feel genuine, supportive, and long-lasting.


This episode is an honest look at the emotional reality of starting over and a guide to finding the people who make your new country feel like a life, not just a location.


ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>Moving to a new country can make you feel like you’ve been dropped into someone else’s life overnight. In those early months, everything is unfamiliar and yet, one of the biggest determinants of your wellbeing is also the hardest to prioritise: friendship.</p><p><br></p><p>As adults, making friends isn’t effortless anymore. It takes energy, vulnerability and timing. And when you’re settling into a new posting, it can feel both essential and overwhelming.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><p>-Why adult friendships feel harder to build — especially when your identity is in transition</p><p>-The role of community in grounding you emotionally during those first few months abroad</p><p>-Why finding “your people” matters for your sense of belonging, confidence, and stability</p><p>-What stops us from prioritising friendships even when we’re craving connection</p><p>-How to build friendships that feel genuine, supportive, and long-lasting.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is an honest look at the emotional reality of starting over and a guide to finding the people who make your new country feel like a life, not just a location.</p><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 5bae3b86-e95e-4d78-8058-a326bbb96749 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/8f8eae05-1c4c-47ef-8f88-5a4c9917e237 Tue, 02 Dec 2025 03:09:50 +0000 2467 no full Ep 12: Staying Connected When You’re Far Apart- Nurturing Long-Distance Relationships Ep 12: Staying Connected When You’re Far Apart- Nurturing Long-Distance Relationships Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa One of the hardest parts of diplomatic life is the distance it creates - not just from places, but from people. As you move from posting to posting, the friendships and family ties that once felt effortless suddenly require intention, creativity, and emotional resilience.


In this episode, we explore:

- Why communication patterns shift when you move abroad and how to adapt with compassion

- How to nurture the friendships that mean the most—without pressure or guilt

- What to do when you can’t make every wedding, birthday, or family event


This is all about giving yourself grace and compassion and just knowing that you're doing the best you possibly can.


ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com


Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org

| zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p><span>One of the hardest parts of diplomatic life is the distance it creates - not just from places, but from people. As you move from posting to posting, the friendships and family ties that once felt effortless suddenly require intention, creativity, and emotional resilience. </span></p><p><br></p><p><span>In this episode, we explore:</span></p><p><span>- Why communication patterns shift when you move abroad and how to adapt with compassion</span></p><p><span>- How to nurture the friendships that mean the most—without pressure or guilt</span></p><p><span>- What to do when you can’t make every wedding, birthday, or family event</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>This is all about giving yourself grace and compassion and just knowing that you&#39;re doing the best you possibly can.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</span></p><p><span>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org</span></p><p><span> | zestie.carrd.co</span></p> a0fca311-7808-4136-ba14-239a0c1d163e https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/bf6cd13f-906d-4953-8edc-d62b4ba36b88 Tue, 18 Nov 2025 03:06:36 +0000 2561 no full Ep 11: The Third Person in Your Relationship- When the Job Comes Home Ep 11: The Third Person in Your Relationship- When the Job Comes Home Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In diplomatic life, there’s often a third presence in every relationship - the job. It doesn’t clock out at 5 p.m., it joins you at dinner, shapes your weekends, and sometimes even decides your plans for you. From last-minute crises to work dinners and representational housing, the boundaries between personal and professional life can blur until they almost disappear.

In this episode, we explore:

  • How to navigate the constant presence of your partner’s work in your relationship
  • What to do when official duties clash with personal plans
  • How to manage feelings of frustration, disappointment, or invisibility
  • Practical ways to set boundaries, communicate needs, and reconnect as a couple outside of the job

This is about learning to live with it in a way that honours both partners, keeps connection alive, and protects your relationship from becoming a posting casualty.

ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>In diplomatic life, there’s often a third presence in every relationship - the job. It doesn’t clock out at 5 p.m., it joins you at dinner, shapes your weekends, and sometimes even decides your plans for you. From last-minute crises to work dinners and representational housing, the boundaries between personal and professional life can blur until they almost disappear.</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>How to navigate the constant presence of your partner’s work in your relationship</li><li>What to do when official duties clash with personal plans</li><li>How to manage feelings of frustration, disappointment, or invisibility</li><li>Practical ways to set boundaries, communicate needs, and reconnect as a couple outside of the job</li><li><br></li></ul><p>This is about learning to live <em>with</em> it in a way that honours both partners, keeps connection alive, and protects your relationship from becoming a posting casualty.</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p> Anna – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/notjustaspouse" rel="nofollow">@notjustaspouse</a> | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p> Emma – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/thezestielife" rel="nofollow">@thezestielife</a> | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 49e4c8e8-3974-454b-9d3d-77e25ff8d5b8 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/4c228b6a-7819-4da9-970a-ef40a5036ced Tue, 04 Nov 2025 06:24:24 +0000 2470 no full Ep 10: When Is It Time to Stop Moving? When Constant Relocation No Longer Feels Right Ep 10: When Is It Time to Stop Moving? When Constant Relocation No Longer Feels Right Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In diplomatic life, this question can bubble under the surface for a long time and pops up every now and again. How much longer can we keep doing this? Whether it’s the desire to stay in one place, return home, or finally prioritise stability, knowing when “enough is enough” can feel impossibly complex.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Why deciding to stay, move, or go home is such an emotional and layered choice
  • The internal conflicts between loyalty, love, identity, and personal wellbeing
  • Reflection prompts to help you explore what you actually want
  • Practical tools to help you find confidence and peace in your decision - whatever it may be


This is about tuning in. It’s about finding the courage to ask honest questions, trust your intuition, and define what a sustainable and fulfilling life looks like for you and your family.

ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>In diplomatic life, this question can bubble under the surface for a long time and pops up every now and again. <em>How much longer can we keep doing this?</em> Whether it’s the desire to stay in one place, return home, or finally prioritise stability, knowing when “enough is enough” can feel impossibly complex.</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>Why deciding to stay, move, or go home is such an emotional and layered choice</li><li>The internal conflicts between loyalty, love, identity, and personal wellbeing</li><li>Reflection prompts to help you explore what you actually want </li><li>Practical tools to help you find confidence and peace in your decision - whatever it may be</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This is about tuning in. It’s about finding the courage to ask honest questions, trust your intuition, and define what a sustainable and fulfilling life looks like for you and your family.</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p> Anna – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/notjustaspouse" rel="nofollow">@notjustaspouse</a> | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p> Emma – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/thezestielife" rel="nofollow">@thezestielife</a> | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 30d440a9-23fd-408c-bb2b-4cfdeb65cc8d https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/7cb3d9b8-c235-48b6-9861-a97c29012cac Tue, 21 Oct 2025 06:00:13 +0000 2356 no full Ep 9: The Hidden Price of Dependence- Money, Power, and Partnership in Diplomatic Life Ep 9: The Hidden Price of Dependence- Money, Power, and Partnership in Diplomatic Life Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In diplomatic life, money often sits quietly in the background, tied up in allowances, benefits, and hard to reach systems that can leave one partner holding all the control. But financial dependency isn’t just about income; it’s about access, autonomy, and feeling empowered to make choices for yourself.

In this conversation, we explore:

  • What financial dependency really looks like for diplomatic spouses
  • Why transparency and shared decision-making around money matter
  • How to build systems that support fairness- joint accounts, personal spending, savings, and emergency funds
  • Ways to create confidence and independence around finances, even when your own income isn’t the main one

This is about awareness, equality, and reclaiming your sense of power and security in a life that often revolves around someone else’s posting.

ASK your questions on our anonymous link: https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co

]]> <p>In diplomatic life, money often sits quietly in the background, tied up in allowances, benefits, and hard to reach systems that can leave one partner holding all the control. But financial dependency isn’t just about income; it’s about access, autonomy, and feeling empowered to make choices for yourself.</p><p>In this conversation, we explore:</p><ul><li>What financial dependency really looks like for diplomatic spouses</li><li>Why transparency and shared decision-making around money matter</li><li>How to build systems that support fairness- joint accounts, personal spending, savings, and emergency funds</li><li>Ways to create confidence and independence around finances, even when your own income isn’t the main one</li></ul><p>This is about awareness, equality, and reclaiming your sense of power and security in a life that often revolves around someone else’s posting.</p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link: <a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p> Anna – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/notjustaspouse" rel="nofollow">@notjustaspouse</a> | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p> Emma – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/thezestielife" rel="nofollow">@thezestielife</a> | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co</p> 3d84a699-3433-4049-aade-be98184de6ea https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/b7397722-1f44-4308-ab56-fbdbee012347 Tue, 07 Oct 2025 08:17:18 +0000 2453 no full Ep 8: Inside the Bubble- Social Dependency and the Diplomatic Spouse Ep 8: Inside the Bubble- Social Dependency and the Diplomatic Spouse Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In diplomatic life, your social world often starts with your partner’s role: embassy events, official receptions, and colleagues who quickly become your default circle. But what happens when your friendships feel more like extensions of your partner’s career than your own? And how do you build a social life that feels like yours in a world where everything is transient and dependent on someone else’s posting?

In this conversation, we explore:

  • Why so much of your social network flows through your partner’s role
  • The emotional toll of relying on embassy circles as your main source of connection
  • Building friendships beyond the diplomatic bubble


This is about embracing the embassy community AND finding balance, independence, and friendships that feel authentic inside and outside of embassy life.


ASK your questions on our anonymous link; https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | zestie.carrd.co


]]> <p>In diplomatic life, your social world often starts with your partner’s role: embassy events, official receptions, and colleagues who quickly become your default circle. But what happens when your friendships feel more like extensions of your partner’s career than your own? And how do you build a social life that feels like yours<em> </em>in a world where everything is transient and dependent on someone else’s posting?</p><p>In this conversation, we explore:</p><ul><li>Why so much of your social network flows through your partner’s role</li><li>The emotional toll of relying on embassy circles as your main source of connection</li><li>Building friendships beyond the diplomatic bubble</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This is about embracing the embassy community AND finding balance, independence, and friendships that feel authentic inside and outside of embassy life.</p><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link; https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5 </p><p><br></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts: </p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com </p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org | <a href="https://l.instagram.com/?e=AT0kW-35VEP3SQ17U1nacFKPii6K8Kc3ht2uUMQoZOkBJF8B3DweM755rBucbCr5-oYJE4zDdZhuCXYHgsIsVYcWIUhDLpiJ41MpnHelDQ&u=https%3A%2F%2Fzestie.carrd.co%2F%3Ffbclid%3DPAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAadtS1ndS6iUiy0zi7Z34z1PxlXtgP7-pugSpMC5US-M-K88_HveMSUUbP7RbQ_aem_j6ozNAU0ZKL-WhVlBXxR1w" rel="nofollow">zestie.carrd.co</a></p><p><br></p> c09fd6ae-5392-4ab3-817a-4133b7657ced https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/2803000f-f794-4c8b-8374-6260184636ce Tue, 23 Sep 2025 08:56:54 +0000 2221 no full Ep 7: The Diplomatic Reset- Routines, Independence, and Your “Real” New Year Ep 7: The Diplomatic Reset- Routines, Independence, and Your “Real” New Year Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa As summer travel wraps up and school schedules kick in, September often feels like the real New Year for families. It’s a chance to reset, find your new routines, and reclaim a sense of independence in a life that’s often dictated by someone else’s posting, schedule, or demands.

In this conversation, we unpack:

  • Why September feels like a natural reset in diplomatic life
  • How to create routines and new habits that give you more space for you
  • Different tools on how we can change the way we see ourselves to feel more empowered, motivated and actually have more success wherever you are in the world


This isn’t about perfection or rigid schedules it’s about building habits and routines that support your independence, your family, and your well-being, no matter where your posting takes you.


ASK your questions on our anonymous link;

https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org

]]> <p>As summer travel wraps up and school schedules kick in, September often feels like the <em>real</em> New Year for families. It’s a chance to reset, find your new routines, and reclaim a sense of independence in a life that’s often dictated by someone else’s posting, schedule, or demands.</p><p>In this conversation, we unpack:</p><ul><li>Why September feels like a natural reset in diplomatic life</li><li>How to create routines and new habits that give you more space for <em>you</em></li><li>Different tools on how we can change the way we see ourselves to feel more empowered, motivated and actually have more success wherever you are in the world</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This isn’t about perfection or rigid schedules it’s about building habits and routines that support your independence, your family, and your well-being, no matter where your posting takes you.</p><p><br></p><p>ASK your questions on our anonymous link;</p><p>https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</p><p><br></p><p>🎧 <strong>Connect with your hosts:</strong></p><p>Anna – Instagram: <strong>@notjustaspouse</strong> | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: <strong>@thezestielife</strong> | emma@zestie.org</p> 9b6e2211-70bb-43a6-bf1d-c7ddd61302da https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/87661a30-47d0-4fdf-9288-0243dc678248 Tue, 09 Sep 2025 04:00:21 +0000 2302 no full Ep 6: Are You Becoming More Dependent Than You Realise? Ep 6: Are You Becoming More Dependent Than You Realise? Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa We’re kicking off a brand-new mini-series on the subtle ways diplomatic life can quietly shift you into dependency- on a person, a system, or a lifestyle- without you even noticing.

In this first conversation, we unpack:

  • One of the first small, everyday signs that you might be sliding into a more dependent role
  • How it affects your sense of identity, autonomy, and confidence
  • The role that location, lifestyle, and partner dynamics play in reinforcing it
  • Simple and practical tools to start reclaiming your independence and empowerment


This isn’t about judgement, it’s about awareness. Because once you can see the patterns, you can start to choose differently.

ASK your questions on our anonymous link;

https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org

]]> <p>We’re kicking off a brand-new mini-series on the subtle ways diplomatic life can quietly shift you into dependency- on a person, a system, or a lifestyle- without you even noticing.</p><p>In this first conversation, we unpack:</p><ul><li>One of the first small, everyday signs that you might be sliding into a more dependent role</li><li>How it affects your sense of identity, autonomy, and confidence</li><li>The role that location, lifestyle, and partner dynamics play in reinforcing it</li><li>Simple and practical tools to start reclaiming your independence and empowerment</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This isn’t about judgement, it’s about awareness. Because once you can see the patterns, you can start to choose differently.</p><p><strong>ASK your questions on our anonymous link;</strong></p><p><a href="https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5" rel="nofollow">https://tally.so/r/nP7zO5</a></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/notjustaspouse" rel="nofollow">@notjustaspouse</a> | <a href="https://www.notjustaspouse.com" rel="nofollow">notjustaspouse.com</a> | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/thezestielife" rel="nofollow">@thezestielife</a> | emma@zestie.org</p> a379ccec-81da-4831-aa1b-a45c57c4f4fc https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/2924ee1e-d735-46c1-b574-49a1b8c003fa Tue, 26 Aug 2025 04:00:57 +0000 2219 no full Ep 5: Reinvention & Portfolio Careers- What is My Purpose? Ep 5: Reinvention & Portfolio Careers- What is My Purpose? Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa When you’re constantly relocating, traditional career paths often go out the window. In this episode of Unpacked, we explore the idea of portfolio and portable careers the often non-linear ways diplomatic partners build meaning and identity through work, reinvention, and creative adaptation.

We ask:

- Are we constantly reinventing, or simply expressing our purpose in new forms?

- What does it look like to shift between employment, freelancing, consulting?

We also get honest about:

-The emotional side of reinvention

-The hidden power in flexibility (and the hidden cost)

-The realities of self-employment vs. formal employment abroad

-The pressure to “make it count” when you do get an opportunity


And that sticky question… which partner is lucky?

Whether you're in the middle of a pivot or just wondering what’s next, this episode is for you.


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org

]]> <p>When you’re constantly relocating, traditional career paths often go out the window. In this episode of Unpacked, we explore the idea of portfolio and portable careers the often non-linear ways diplomatic partners build meaning and identity through work, reinvention, and creative adaptation.</p><p>We ask:</p><p>- Are we constantly reinventing, or simply expressing our purpose in new forms?</p><p>- What does it look like to shift between employment, freelancing, consulting?</p><p>We also get honest about:</p><p>-The emotional side of reinvention </p><p>-The hidden power in flexibility (and the hidden cost)</p><p>-The realities of self-employment vs. formal employment abroad</p><p>-The pressure to “make it count” when you do get an opportunity</p><p><br></p><p>And that sticky question… which partner is lucky?</p><p>Whether you&#39;re in the middle of a pivot or just wondering what’s next, this episode is for you.</p><p><br></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org</p> 02d79bd0-3c03-43b5-9b2b-d4dce6ecdbef https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/ebf8e28b-4d57-4d3c-b98f-d84da4989e9b Tue, 12 Aug 2025 08:56:43 +0000 2314 no full Ep 4: The Invisible Load that Partners Carry Ep 4: The Invisible Load that Partners Carry Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In this episode, we dive into the invisible load that many diplomatic and expat partners silently carry; the emotional, logistical, and identity-based weight that often goes unseen. We explore how being labelled a "dependent" can slowly chip away at your self-esteem, even when life looks “picture perfect” from the outside.

✨ You'll hear:

  • Why this hidden burden is so real (and so common)
  • How the language we use can shape our self-worth
  • What you can start doing today to support yourself more consciously and compassionately


This one’s for anyone who’s ever felt unseen in their role, unsure of their identity, or quietly carrying more than they realise. You’re not alone and your story matters. 💛

Tune in and share with a friend who needs to hear this.

🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org

]]> <p>In this episode, we dive into the <em>invisible load</em> that many diplomatic and expat partners silently carry; the emotional, logistical, and identity-based weight that often goes unseen. We explore how being labelled a &#34;dependent&#34; can slowly chip away at your self-esteem, even when life looks “picture perfect” from the outside.</p><p>✨ You&#39;ll hear:</p><ul><li>Why this hidden burden is so real (and so common)</li><li>How the language we use can shape our self-worth</li><li>What you can start doing today to support yourself more consciously and compassionately</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This one’s for anyone who’s ever felt unseen in their role, unsure of their identity, or quietly carrying more than they realise. You’re not alone and your story matters. 💛</p><p>Tune in and share with a friend who needs to hear this.</p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/notjustaspouse" rel="nofollow">@notjustaspouse</a> | <a href="https://www.notjustaspouse.com" rel="nofollow">notjustaspouse.com</a> | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/thezestielife" rel="nofollow">@thezestielife</a> | emma@zestie.org</p> d4b878b9-56aa-4109-844f-756ad1232cd4 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/1b9e1035-badf-47c6-85e7-1847a486c586 Mon, 28 Jul 2025 22:00:31 +0000 2362 no full Ep 3: Why Summer Feels So Hard- Navigating Transition Season Ep 3: Why Summer Feels So Hard- Navigating Transition Season Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Summer might look sunny on the outside, but for many diplomatic partners, it’s one of the most emotionally and logistically challenging times of the year. In this episode, we unpack why the summer season, with all its moves, goodbyes, disrupted routines, and emotional upheaval, can feel so hard, even when everything seems "fine."

Whether you're the one moving, staying behind, or caught in the ripple effects of transition, this conversation is here to normalise your experience and offer gentle, practical ways to support yourself through it.


We talk about:

-Why summer can feel like a pressure cooker for diplomatic families

-The emotional undercurrent of transitions (even the ones we choose)

-Letting go of structure and what that stirs up

-Anchoring yourself when routines fall away

-What small, intentional choices can help you feel more grounded and supported

This is your reminder: it’s okay to not love this season. And you’re definitely not alone in that.


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org 

]]> <p>Summer might look sunny on the outside, but for many diplomatic partners, it’s one of the most emotionally and logistically challenging times of the year. In this episode, we unpack why the summer season, with all its moves, goodbyes, disrupted routines, and emotional upheaval, can feel so hard, even when everything seems &#34;fine.&#34;</p><p>Whether you&#39;re the one moving, staying behind, or caught in the ripple effects of transition, this conversation is here to normalise your experience and offer gentle, practical ways to support yourself through it.</p><p><br></p><p>We talk about:</p><p>-Why summer can feel like a pressure cooker for diplomatic families</p><p>-The emotional undercurrent of transitions (even the ones we choose)</p><p>-Letting go of structure and what that stirs up</p><p>-Anchoring yourself when routines fall away</p><p>-What small, intentional choices can help you feel more grounded and supported</p><p>This is your reminder: it’s okay to not love this season. And you’re definitely not alone in that.</p><p><br></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org </p> 5a402621-bfe6-4128-ac01-2af15eaab860 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/66d0f52e-80a1-4741-ac99-f5f0d2456b58 Mon, 14 Jul 2025 22:00:30 +0000 2282 no full Pilot 2: Meet Emma — The Zestie Life Pilot 2: Meet Emma — The Zestie Life Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa Get to know co-host Emma as she shares her story of reinvention, from teacher to coach, and what drives her to support diplomatic partners in finding energy, clarity, and belonging. A conversation about showing up fully in a life that keeps moving.


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com


If you enjoyed this episode, follow the show and send it to a friend who gets it.

]]> <p>Get to know co-host Emma as she shares her story of reinvention, from teacher to coach, and what drives her to support diplomatic partners in finding energy, clarity, and belonging. A conversation about showing up fully in a life that keeps moving.</p><p><br></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p><br></p><p>If you enjoyed this episode, follow the show and send it to a friend who gets it.</p> e9da33da-6555-4e67-86f5-a3b184bf6f5d https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/afced264-4540-4701-bd95-ec589b1f265a Tue, 01 Jul 2025 06:00:35 +0000 1453 no full Pilot 1: Meet Anna — Not Just a Spouse Pilot 1: Meet Anna — Not Just a Spouse Emma Somerville & Anna Skorobogatowa In our very first episode, Anna shares her personal journey from diplomatic partner to founder of Not Just a Spouse. We explore identity, purpose, and why she’s on a mission to help others feel seen and empowered — wherever they are in the world.


🎧 Connect with your hosts:

Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com

Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org


If this resonates, share with a fellow diplomatic partner who needs it.

]]> <p>In our very first episode, Anna shares her personal journey from diplomatic partner to founder of Not Just a Spouse. We explore identity, purpose, and why she’s on a mission to help others feel seen and empowered — wherever they are in the world.</p><p><br></p><p>🎧 Connect with your hosts:</p><p>Anna – Instagram: @notjustaspouse | notjustaspouse.com | anna@notjustaspouse.com</p><p>Emma – Instagram: @thezestielife | emma@zestie.org</p><p><br></p><p>If this resonates, share with a fellow diplomatic partner who needs it.</p> b7576203-0c16-4141-9fa2-a0faec83b644 https://redcircle.com/shows/c97cfad6-527a-45b7-9567-1f0d875d9f94/episodes/bc306796-d7e9-4f6b-91b9-a98fc886b988 Tue, 01 Jul 2025 06:00:20 +0000 1271 no