In this final episode, Jay opens up about why the time has come to close this chapter, how the show has evolved, and why the next phase of Safety FM lives within The Rated R Safety Show and Jay Allen in the Morning. He speaks directly from the heart about the interviews, the guests, the community, and the people who became part of the story along the way.

This episode is a celebration—a tribute to the conversations that changed perspectives, challenged systems, and connected people from all corners of the world. It’s a moment to pause, breathe, and acknowledge a journey that started as an idea and grew into something far bigger than anyone could have predicted.

And while this is goodbye for now, it is far from the end. Jay’s voice, curiosity, and commentary continue elsewhere on the network. This is simply the closing of one door and the gentle opening of another.

The episode concludes with “ Crossroads at the End of All Things,” an original track created together just days ago—an emotional, fitting final note for a show that has always been about connection, humanity, and the stories behind the work.

Thank you for the listens.

Thank you for the years.

Thank you for being part of this chapter.

Here’s to what comes next.

Todd shares how a conversation with David Woods sparked the initial idea, how the economy and pressure for shareholder value are influencing safety margins, and why organizations must rethink what “stability” actually means. They also explore how AI unexpectedly shaped the book’s ending, why AI won’t replace safety professionals, and how tools like NotebookLM can reorganize our thinking and reveal blind spots we didn’t know we had.

The two dive into the pitfalls of “Drive to Zero,” middle-management pressure, worker complacency narratives, brittle systems, pandemic lessons, wearables, and the paradox of calling a safety program “mature.” If you’re in safety, operations, leadership, or you simply care about how real work gets done, this conversation offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at where the field is heading next.

A thoughtful, honest, and wide-ranging conversation you won’t want to miss.

It’s a short but powerful reflection on awareness, intention, and growth — a reminder that every choice shapes the journey ahead.

🎙️ Safety FM Mini — because sometimes, all it takes is a few minutes to spark a change in perspective.

From AI and hybrid work to shifting definitions of safety itself, this episode challenges you to ask: Are we really moving forward, or just painting over the same cracked wall? Real progress isn’t found in dashboards or TRIRs — it’s in trust, humility, and the uncomfortable questions that remind us we’re still alive and still learning.

🎧 Press play and rethink what “moving forward” really means.

Because sometimes, resolving pain points starts with one simple act — listening.

From AI-driven productivity trackers to digital safety dashboards, organizations are chasing data at the expense of trust — confusing control with care. Jay examines what happens when observation replaces connection, and when the illusion of safety becomes more important than the experience of being safe.

This conversation challenges leaders to rethink what safety really means in a world obsessed with measurement — and reminds us that while systems can track behavior, only people can build trust.

From cybersecurity warnings to lessons about accountability, this episode explores how the way we respond to breaches—digital or organizational—shapes trust, culture, and credibility.

🎙️ Originally featured on The Rated R Safety Show. Stream it now on Safety FM.

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This show is brought to you by Safety FM — where we talk about the things that matter, even when the servers crash.

A reminder that growth doesn’t always come from the usual places — sometimes it’s found in doing something different.

🎧 Presented by: Safety Focus Moment

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🎧 Tune in to Safety FM with Jay Allen for this reflective conversation on alignment, consistency, and the human side of organizational change.

From last-minute cancellations to sudden organizational pivots, Jay unpacks how these constant shifts can derail even our best efforts and what they reveal about patterns, habits, and systems at work. This isn’t just a rant about frustration; it’s a decoded look at how priorities are assigned, taken away, and reshaped — and what that means for the people actually doing the work.

Plus, Jay connects this conversation back to the themes of his Signal Transmission Trilogy, including Safety Mutation, and why recognizing these “mutations” in organizational behavior might be the first step toward reclaiming real safety culture.

Tune in to Episode 764 of Safety FM with Jay Allen — a candid, unfiltered look at the everyday disruptions that shape how we work, lead, and learn.

At 12 PM Eastern on September 30th, we’re going live with the Signal Trilogy Lunch & Learn — a free, online, one-hour transmission (not a webinar, not a slide deck, not compliance training). Consider this podcast your warm-up broadcast.

In this special Ask Me Anything session, Jay takes on your questions about:

• Why safety isn’t about controlling people but creating conditions
• How to filter through noise and find the true signal
• What it was really like writing the Signal Trilogy
• Balancing compliance with human performance
• Whether HOP is just another safety fad (spoiler: it’s not)
• And what’s next now that the Trilogy is complete

This isn’t about easy answers or checklists. It’s about seeing differently, tuning in to the real signal, and preparing for the collapse of the construct.

👉 Reserve your free spot now: https://swiy.co/SignalVirtual

Join us live at 12 PM Eastern, September 30, 2025 — and let’s tune in together.

Is there a perfect definition? Maybe not—but Jay shares his thoughts on system information generated through navigation, awareness, and liberation as a working framework to get the dialogue started. Tune in for a fast-paced episode that sets the stage for exploring how "signal" can help us see safety, systems, and people in a whole new light.

You’ll hear:

• How to drive micro-level change when the system won’t budge yet
• A better take on “accountability” that isn’t blame
• Why numbers and forms aren’t the work—and what to do instead

Originally recorded for Sheldon’s show, shared here to spark new conversations. If this helps, pass it on to a colleague who needs it today.

Jay shares the story of where SIGNAL began, from a fatal crash on the 405 freeway to the realization that most of what we call “safety” is performance, not presence. This conversation explores the cracks in our systems, the glitches we can no longer ignore, and why the upcoming SIGNAL event is about more than rules — it’s about noticing the truth underneath the script.

You’ll hear why SIGNAL exists, what you can expect from the event, and what you’ll walk away with:

• Clarity — seeing the gap between what the system says and what people experience.
• Language — tools and metaphors for talking about drift, pressure, and adaptation.
• Presence — practical ways to show up differently in your systems.

SIGNAL isn’t about more slides or theory-for-theory’s sake. It’s about tuning in together. And you’re invited.

📅 Reserve your free pass now at swiy.co/SignalVirtual or visit SafetyFM.com → Live Events.

Before heading into the Labor Day weekend, take a moment to reflect: what in your organization—or even in your own routines—still relies on a fragile single point of failure? This short but sharp episode will challenge you to spot vulnerabilities and take action before they become your next crisis.

Ripped from the headlines of The Rated R Safety Show, this main story dives into the challenges of aligning safety goals across the chain of command, and why seeing safety only as a “bonus” undermines its true purpose.

It’s a reminder that the goal isn’t just twelve books — it’s the commitment to keep expanding your perspective, one page at a time.

Too often, companies rely on static checklists and “click-through” programs that exist on paper but never truly embed into daily operations. Jay explores why safety cannot live as a separate program—it has to be woven directly into the culture. Without that cultural integration, programs lack legitimacy and real impact.

This episode challenges you to ask:

• Is your safety program part of the culture—or just paperwork?
• Has your program evolved as your organization has evolved?
• What does it mean to have “culture culture,” instead of splitting safety into its own silo?

Tune in for a candid discussion about evolution, culture, and why embedding safety into the very fabric of an organization is the only way forward.

We’ll explore the challenges older safety pros face, the hidden strengths they bring to the table, and practical strategies for staying relevant, respected, and engaged in a rapidly evolving industry. Plus, we’ll talk about what organizations risk losing when they let experience walk out the door — and how they can retain that critical knowledge before it’s gone.

Whether you’re a veteran safety leader or just starting out, this conversation will challenge how you think about career longevity, mentorship, and the future of the safety field.

You’ll hear first names and towns, as Jay responds directly to real questions from listeners across the globe—covering everything from distortion in metrics to how storytelling changes the way we think about safety.

If you've ever wondered how to move from managing risk to influencing systems, this episode delivers. Raw, reflective, and real—this isn’t just another safety episode. It’s a signal worth catching.

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Jay shares a gripping narrative about a series of forklift incidents that expose the hidden disconnect between rules and reality. This chapter—“The Forklift and the Pedestrians”—challenges the illusion of compliance and explores how systems, not just individuals, shape safety outcomes. It’s about context, design, behavior, and the moment safety culture stops being theory and starts being felt.

Whether you're new to the Trilogy or have been following the Signal since the start, this episode delivers a thought-provoking listen that may just change how you see your workplace.

📘 Grab the complete Signal Transmission Trilogy now on Amazon or visit SafetyFM.com to learn more.

This isn’t just about celebrity deaths—it’s a reminder of how fragile and unpredictable time can be. If someone’s been on your mind, today might be the day to reach out. Because you never know when the last conversation will be.

Take a moment. Make it count.

Brought to you by Safety Focus Moments — helping you build the safety culture you’ve been looking for.

#SafetyFM #SafetyCulture #LifeIsShort #ConnectionMatters

From multiverse metaphors to boardroom realities, this episode challenges you to rethink how performance is measured, rewarded, and ultimately implemented. Can true change happen if we’re still playing by old rules?

🧠 Thought-provoking.

💥 Unfiltered.

📈 Necessary.

Dr. Jay Allen challenges the traditional safety and organizational training models that rely on unrealistic simulations and one-off learning events. Drawing on insights from The Signal Transmission Trilogy, Jay examines how we expect people to respond perfectly in chaos—based on training delivered in sterile, artificial environments they've never actually encountered.

This episode explores:

• Why core principles matter more than memorized protocols
• The difference between reactive behavior and principled decision-making
• How military, martial arts, and sports training tie into organizational learning
• The real meaning of “adaptability” in high-stakes environments

If your safety program still treats training as a one-and-done checklist, this episode might sting a little—but it’s a necessary wake-up call.

🔊 Listen now for a raw, reflective breakdown on why we need to stop teaching safety like it’s a scripted rehearsal—and start building real-world readiness.

#SafetyFM #SafetyCulture #TrainingReality #HumanPerformance #DrJayAllen #SignalTransmission #RealTalkSafety #SafetyLeadership

From live radio chaos to thought-provoking safety culture questions, this quick hit will have you asking: Where are the single points of failure in your system—and how can you fix them before they break?

Brought to you by Safety Focus Moments – Helping you build the safety culture you've been looking for.

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Jay and Sam dive into a raw and honest conversation that spans everything from creative content development and ditching corporate life, to the friction between traditional safety models and emerging human-focused philosophies. Sam shares what inspired his viral videos, the unexpected journey into album creation, and the deeper thinking behind his now-iconic cards and app.

They also discuss the weight of middle management, the allure of rebranding HOP, and the very real frustrations of watching good ideas get watered down for convenience. Along the way, Jay opens up about The Signal Transmission Trilogy—how it began, why it became three books, and what it really means to challenge the system from within.

Whether you're a frontline worker, consultant, or safety leader, this episode is a masterclass in truth-telling, creative thinking, and staying grounded in what matters. Expect laughter, reflection, and a few well-placed jabs at the industry's sacred cows.

Gordon shares how Energy Safety Canada curates its content, the evolving balance between theory and application, and why inclusivity in safety philosophy matters more than ever. The conversation also touches on leadership transitions, industry collaboration, and how the organization is addressing serious injury and fatality trends through accessible, frontline-ready tools.

Whether you’re in oil & gas, construction, or just curious about the future of safety conversations, this episode pulls back the curtain on how impactful, real-world safety culture gets built.

They explore:

• What it's like observing literal life-saving work in hospitals
• Why “being human” is a philosophy, not just a polo shirt
• The tension between simplicity and certainty in safety leadership
• How AI tools are helping safety pros reclaim time for human connection
• The real story behind Punk Rock Safety (and Neanderthal DNA)
• Why asking “now what?” might be the most important part of your HOP journey

Recorded live at Energy Safety Canada, this episode is more than a chat—it’s a signal to stay grounded, stay curious, and never believe your own hype.

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They explore how organizations are applying Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) principles to bridge the persistent gap between work as imagined and work as done. The conversation evolves into the role of AI-powered tools in scaling operational learning, anticipating emerging risks, and designing better work for people.

Brent and Jeff also address the growing AI dilemma—how we ensure trust, accountability, and fairness in AI-driven systems while navigating the tension between human error and technological advancement.

At the conclusion of the session, Jay Allen had the chance to sit down with both speakers for a brief interview to reflect on the message and what it means for the future of work.

This tool, which has a 92 per cent accuracy rate, was developed in collaboration with multiple technology companies. The goal was to validate their EHS data with a tool that required zero human interface.

At the end of the episode we sit with Mr. Rose to further the discussion on Safety FM with Jay Allen.

Join Steve Scott in a session that challenges long-held safety beliefs and explores a new approach to protecting workers. This session will introduce the first principle of Human and Organizational Performance: Error is Normal.

Instead of focusing solely on preventing injuries, what if we shifted our attention to protecting workers, even when things go wrong?

Learn more about Steve’s transition from a "zero tolerance" approach to a focus on "failing safely" – and what that shift could mean for the future of workplace safety.

Don't forget to listen to the convo between me and Steve Scott at the end of his presentation.

This presentation will explore the purpose, use – and unintended outcomes – of one of the most popular KPI metrics – the LTIFR. And how the causes of recordable injuries are very different to the causes of fatalities.

It tells the story of Deepwater Horizon and BP's focus on recordable injuries, and explores the current research on the issue.

This presentation helps companies understand that managing the LTIFR does not help with preventing fatalities.

Brought to you by Safety Focus Moment – helping organizations build the safety culture they’ve been searching for.

Brady walks us through real incidents, including a fatal bus rollover, revealing how organizations too often blame people while the system quietly decays. With insights on high reliability organizations (HROs), drift into failure, and the illusion of "training" as a fix-all, this episode challenges the very foundation of traditional safety thinking.

You’ll also hear a candid follow-up conversation between Jay and Sean as they explore critical controls, learning culture, and the line between HOP and HRO philosophy.

This isn’t a rebrand of old ideas. It’s a wake-up call.

🔍 Topics Covered:

• What really causes fatalities in high-hazard industries
• Why administrative controls dominate post-incident actions
• The illusion of compliance vs. control effectiveness
• How drift and production pressure silently erode systems
• Bridging HOP and HRO in a meaningful way

📡 This is not a manual. It's a decoded transmission.

From the tragedy that sparked Jay’s shift from operations to safety, to confronting burnout, binaural beats, archetypes, and that infamous question mark tattoo—this episode unpacks it all. Plus: a behind-the-scenes story about the 30,000-download episode that launched Safety FM into orbit.

🔓 Bonus: Free audiobook code inside and a sneak peek at Safety Mutation and the upcoming Safety Transmission—completing the Signal Transmission Trilogy.

🧠 Systems. Signal. Simulation. It’s not a podcast episode—it’s a decoded transmission.

Directly after the speech we will discuss some other topics that may have not been discussed during the speech. Lets also uncover what his Mom said during the phone call.

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If it feels off… that might be the signal. And we’ve got something coming soon that proves it.

He explores the irony of over-planning large-scale initiatives while ignoring the simple, repeatable tasks where errors tend to hide. This one’s for the overthinkers, the safety leaders juggling priorities, and anyone who’s ever been blindsided by something that “should’ve been easy.”

Because in the world of safety (and life), the real risk isn’t the complex—it’s the unnoticed.

🎧 Originally aired on the Rated R Safety Show 🎛️ Presented by Safety FM with Jay Allen

Jay and Bri discuss her career path, the importance of safety leadership, and her thoughts on industry certifications, behavior-based safety, and the role of psychology in safety management. Whether you’re new to the field or a seasoned safety pro, this conversation is packed with valuable insights on influencing workplace culture and driving meaningful change.

Tune in for this engaging discussion as we take a look back at one of our most thought-provoking episodes!

From understanding legal and ethical responsibilities to ensuring a fair and thorough investigation, this discussion is a must-listen for anyone in the safety field who might be approached with these serious concerns.

🔊 Tune in to learn: ✔️ Why safety professionals are often the first point of contact ✔️ How to properly escalate and report incidents ✔️ The importance of swift HR and legal intervention ✔️ The role of annual harassment prevention training

No fluff, no sugarcoating—just real talk on handling workplace challenges the right way.

Jay Allen is joined by expert safety consultant Samantha Jones and organizational psychology specialist Amanda Welch to explore the complexities of safety culture beyond surface-level narratives. Together, they uncover the subtle yet powerful influences of organizational structures, human behaviors, and informal leadership in shaping workplace safety. Through the lens of Human and Organizational Performance (HOP), they challenge traditional safety paradigms, highlighting how learning and adaptability are key to building a resilient safety culture.

Tune in as we question the conventional narratives, reveal the role of hidden influencers, and provide actionable insights to help organizations bridge the gap between policy and real-world safety practices.

🔊 Listen now to start unmasking the unseen forces shaping your safety culture!

And in the middle of the episode, we’ll talk about something else that grows over time—your investments—with a message from our sponsor, Acorns.

Tiny moments. Big impact. Stay safe.

We’ll break down Conklin’s Human and Organizational Performance (HOP) principles, Reason’s Swiss Cheese Model, and Dekker’s Safety Differently philosophy, revealing how safety is about learning, trust, and resilience rather than just compliance and control.

Tune in as we rethink workplace safety, shifting from error prevention to understanding real work and empowering frontline workers. It’s time to challenge the way you see safety!

Sheldon shares insights from his extensive experience, touching on the Chevron Deference case and its implications for regulatory decision-making, the future of voluntary protection programs (VPP), and the challenges posed by litigation in a shifting compliance landscape. The discussion also examines how AI is transforming industries, highlighting the ethical considerations and opportunities it brings to the safety profession.

Join Jay and Sheldon as they navigate this engaging and thought-provoking conversation, offering practical advice and predictions for safety professionals looking to adapt and thrive in an evolving environment.

Stay tuned for Part 2 next week, where the conversation continues with even more insights and strategies to elevate your safety game.

Discover his thoughts on creative safety campaigns, the biggest challenges safety professionals face today, and how to bring fresh perspectives to deeply rooted workplace cultures. Whether you’re a seasoned pro or new to the field, this episode is packed with practical advice, personal stories, and Jay’s trademark humor.

Join us for Episode 686 as we tackle the questions that matter most to you—straight from the source!

Happy holidays from all of us at Safety FM!

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Enjoy the festive vibes and thank you for tuning in! 🎄

This recording is from the ACFS Safety Day 2024 event. To find out more about ACFS, go to ACFS.org.

Seat back and take a listen to what they had to say.

🎙️ Tune in to hear Dr. Law’s predictions and the steps safety pros should consider today.

In this special two-part series of Safety FM with Jay Allen, we bring you exclusive content from Safety Day 2024, presented by the ACFS in Orlando, FL. In part one, Dr. Matthew Law, a leader in public health, occupational safety, and sustainability, shares his expert knowledge on the emerging role of artificial intelligence in occupational safety. Dr. Law explains the basics of AI and machine learning, their current applications, and the transformative potential they hold for safety management. From data analysis to risk prediction, you'll hear firsthand how AI is already impacting safety practices and where it’s headed.

Part two of this series, coming next week, will feature a follow-up interview between Dr. Jay Allen and Dr. Matthew Law, where they further explore the presentation’s key takeaways. Don’t miss it!

Listen to this episode closely and see if you catch the real message here.

In this episode, we dive into Todd E. Conklin’s groundbreaking book, New Ideas for Old Problems: A Human Performance Approach to Sustainable Change. If you’re tired of the same old methods that haven’t worked, this episode is for you! We’ll explore how Conklin’s approach reshapes the way we view safety and operational improvement by focusing on human performance, leadership responsibility, and fostering psychological safety in the workplace.

We break down key concepts like:

- Why leadership needs to own the problems, not just the solutions.

- How workers are problem solvers, not the problem.

- The power of patience and long-term change through micro-experiments.

- How psychological safety and empowering workers can drive sustainable change.

Don’t miss this thought-provoking conversation that will inspire new ways to approach old challenges in your organization.

Check out the book: [New Ideas for Old Problems by Todd E. Conklin, PhD](https://www.amazon.com/New-Ideas-Old-Problems-Performance/dp/B0DFWP9V28/ref=sr_1_7?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oryEEa3aKt8-n9YZcLbRo0tM2CCGEjXOAsxUS5xZ8PK7OVZ3pAGaeorN40usLoUY943Bi7uXAWRa2WWJ4Txr_heyTKb0ymxcDiHWsJSas4SS5F1V5X2XbVXVs7C3tbYObyajOhNPSI57zKo00M0Rf1xpi0JScaLap572yQB539cYl3u5p4RK1DevriLG2A3Yl4pT9uqopRJa9PK_CI7h17PwORfDzAgi8tYAqowcQ64.vstQmV5wYJ1iAN5tXRROVFOWO15ziQwcXtCNOTdq4ug&dib_tag=se&keywords=Todd+Conklin&qid=1726582903&sr=8-7)

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In this episode of Safety FM with Jay Allen, we dive into the transformative power of "Simple Revolutionary Acts" inspired by the insightful work of Dr. Todd Conklin. If you've ever felt stuck in a work routine, uninspired, or simply going through the motions, this episode is for you. Join Jay as he explores how small, intentional changes in the way we think, interact, and work can lead to significant improvements in our professional lives. From choosing positivity and practicing kindness to boldly trying new ideas and managing your boss effectively, these revolutionary acts are designed to inject fresh energy into your daily routine and foster a more fulfilling work environment. Whether you're looking to enhance your own work experience or influence the culture of your entire workplace, this episode offers practical tips, real-life examples, and inspiring insights to help you start your own revolution. Tune in and discover how you can create a positive ripple effect in your workplace, one simple act at a time.