Samone and Brandee met at work and something just clicked. Here, the two trade stories about the towns that shaped them, the mothers who told them to get out and spread their wings, and the question that follows anyone who leaves: who would I have become if I'd stayed?

Along the way they get into the flow state of creative work and the burnout that comes after it, the shadow side of wellness culture, and Samone's years in disaster response, from Mississippi to a volcanic eruption in Hawaii. They also work out what it actually means to be a "girl's girl." Brandee opens up about being afraid of being perceived while still longing to be seen, the "out of sight, out of mind" habit they both inherited, and rediscovering her father through old family home videos. After a long stretch of bracing for the next blow, she talks about finally letting herself feel hope.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome to the Garden

03:08 What Made Us Click

04:47 Getting Paid for What You Love

05:56 Creativity, Flow & Burnout

08:43 The Shadow Side of Wellness Culture

10:08 Quieting the Mind, Not Erasing It

11:41 Take a Breath

12:15 Growing Up in Small-Town Utah

13:59 "You Have to Get Out of This Town"

15:36 Who Would I Have Been If I Stayed?

16:14 From Mississippi to a Volcano

20:05 The Ten-Year Time Capsule

23:14 Sisterhood & Being a Girl's Girl

25:22 Sisters Who Show Up

30:11 Raised by Strong Women

32:07 Fear of Being Perceived vs. Being Seen

34:34 The Different Levels of Friendship

36:44 Letting Yourself Hope Again

39:19 What Peace Feels Like

41:46 Faith, Shame & Believing for Yourself

45:37 Lost Memories & Healing Through Home Videos

48:17 Out of Sight, Out of Mind

50:45 Why Some People Never Leave Their Hometown

52:41 Who We Were Before We Left

54:17 Garden Notes

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In this episode of Our Garden, Samone sits down with Sundra for a conversation about the many lives we live within one lifetime, and the versions of ourselves we meet along the way.

Together, they move through motherhood, movement, music, loneliness, curiosity, and the quiet work of learning to truly see ourselves and one another. Sundra reflects on the teachers, rhythms, cultures, and younger versions of herself that shaped the woman she is today, from her Jamaican roots and life as a dancer to becoming a mother, actor, yoga teacher, and cycle breaker.

They talk about the words that stay with us from childhood, what happens when we reclaim the parts of ourselves we once put down, and why being understood sometimes requires the courage to let ourselves be known.

And when finding our way back to ourselves feels complicated, Sundra offers a beautifully simple place to begin:

Go outside.

Touch the grass.

Move your body.

Get quiet enough to remember that you belong here too.

Because maybe becoming isn't about arriving at some final version of ourselves. Maybe, as Sundra reminds us, we are constantly birthing ourselves.

Welcome back to the Garden.

Chapters

00:24 How Yoga Teacher Training Changed Sundra’s Life

01:48 Discovering the Joy of Teaching and Mentorship

02:48 The Power of Making People Feel Seen

03:27 What It Really Means to Show Up for Someone

04:10 Social Media, Capitalism & the Pressure to Appear Okay

06:12 Asking “How Are You?” and Making Room for Vulnerability

07:05 Loneliness in a World That’s Always Connected

07:47 The Highlight Reel & the Pressure to Keep Up

08:42 Reclaiming Human Connection in a Digital World

10:20 Dancing Without Waiting for Permission

11:36 Passing Down Music, Culture & Nostalgia

12:53 Imposter Syndrome & Finding Freedom Through Movement

13:19 Dance as Expression, Processing & Therapy

14:10 Why Our Bodies Are Made to Move

15:38 Healing the Insecurities We Carry From Childhood

17:23 How One Comment Can Shape a Lifetime

18:11 Motherhood, Identity & Finding a Reason to Keep Going

20:04 Breaking Generational Patterns Through Parenting

20:22 The Importance of Apologizing to Your Children

21:12 Normalizing Emotions & Therapy at Home

22:33 Unlearning What We Inherit From Our Parents

23:40 The Ongoing Journey of Birthing Yourself

24:18 Learning to Give Grace Without Abandoning Yourself

25:30 When Forgiveness Becomes a Boundary

26:38 Inner Child Work & Healing the Versions of Ourselves We Left Behind

27:06 Forgiving the Lonely Child You Once Were

28:28 Trust, Loneliness & the Fear of Opening Up

29:04 Is Being Understood a Two-Way Street?

30:17 Learning to Communicate Instead of Expecting Others to Know

31:35 When You Feel Like You Have Nobody to Talk To

32:24 The Stories We Tell Ourselves Before Asking for Help

33:26 Acting, Presence & Letting Go of Expectations

34:09 Why Movement Training Matters for Actors

35:22 Finding Different Kinds of Fulfillment Through Art

37:20 Reconnecting With Yourself Through Nature

38:33 Grounding Yourself in the Present Moment

39:48 Growth Is a Lifelong Process

40:25 Mental Health, Therapy & Cultural Stigma

41:05 Choosing to Break Generational Cycles

42:25 Bob Marley, Self-Acceptance & Giving Yourself Grace

43:36 You Are Exactly Where You Need to Be

44:00 Learning to Treat Yourself With Compassion

44:37 Garden Notes: How Sundra Changed the Direction of the Series

45:04 Carrying Home, Culture & Community With You

46:05 Taking the Lessons of Our Garden Into Everyday Life

46:43 Our Garden Credits & Closing Thoughts

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In this episode of Our Garden, Samone sits down with Sam for an honest conversation about boundaries, neurodivergence, emotional availability, and the desire to feel understood.

Sam reflects on what years of fundraising taught him about listening without trying to convince, and shares the three principles that guide him through difficult interactions: “It’s not about you,” “no one owes you anything,” and “I don’t owe them anything.” Together, these ideas offer a framework for setting ego aside, respecting other people’s time and autonomy, and recognizing when protecting your own energy means stepping away.

Samone and Sam also compare their very different relationships with empathy. Sam often understands emotions intellectually before he feels them, while Samone can absorb another person’s emotions until she becomes overwhelmed and retreats. Together, they discuss emotional performance, the relationship between words and actions, and what it means to do the work required to maintain a connection.

The conversation expands into ADHD, autism, Black mental health, Caribbean family dynamics, religious stigma, generational trauma, and the importance of having language for the way your mind works. They reflect on mutual respect between parents and children, learning to recognize emotional dysregulation, and allowing themselves to experience feelings they were once taught to suppress.

If you have ever felt misunderstood, struggled to communicate your boundaries, or wondered how to care for someone without abandoning yourself, this conversation is for you.

Chapters

00:00 Creating a Space Safe Enough for Vulnerability

02:48 When the World Feels Overwhelming

03:57 Choosing Grace in Difficult Conversations

06:13 Knowing When to Disengage

08:39 The Conversation That Changed Sam’s Approach

11:05 Boundaries, Respect & Self-Protection

14:38 Discovering ADHD and Understanding Himself

16:34 Can Labels Help Us Grow?

18:05 When Empathy Doesn’t Come Naturally

19:18 Letting Go of Emotional Performance

20:56 Showing Up When Someone Trusts You

22:27 Caring Until You Disappear

24:18 The Cycle of Pulling Away

26:04 When Words and Actions Don’t Match

27:47 Black Mental Health, Access & Stigma

30:25 Family Trauma, Accountability & Healing

32:46 When Honesty Hurts

34:28 Mutual Respect Across Generations

37:29 Emotional Dysregulation & Hidden Bias

39:41 Making Room for Unexpected Feelings

40:32 Learning to Cry

43:04 Finding People Who Understand You

44:24 Garden Notes

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In this episode of Our Garden, Samone sits down with her longtime friend Fawn Winters for a conversation about identity, independence, and the beautifully winding path of becoming. Fawn reflects on leaving home at eighteen, describing the experience as "free-falling into a whirlpool"—equal parts exhilarating and terrifying—and how that leap became the beginning of discovering who she truly was.

Together, they explore chosen names, growing up biracial and bisexual, family expectations, and the quiet courage it takes to define yourself beyond the stories others have written for you. Along the way, they share memories of first apartments, complicated family dynamics, unconventional relationships, heartbreak, and the lessons that emerge as we learn where our boundaries begin and our truest selves are allowed to bloom.

By the end of the conversation, both women look back on their younger selves with tenderness, reflecting on the reminders they wish they'd carried sooner: choose yourself, make room for your emotions, and trust that becoming isn't a destination to arrive at, but a lifelong practice of returning home to yourself.

A Gentle Note: This episode includes conversations about family conflict, sexuality, infidelity, and substance use.

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In this episode of Our Garden, Samone and Jenn explore what growth really asks of us: not the polished, inspirational version, but the uncomfortable, messy, sometimes scary process of stepping into unfamiliar rooms, learning your own limits, and deciding who you want to become. Through stories about power, consent, confidence, boundaries, feedback, storytelling, and crisis response, they explore the difference between wanting to grow and wanting to already be on the other side of growth, why you cannot do someone else’s growth for them, and how hope can live alongside pain when things feel unbearable.

A Gentle Note: This episode contains honest conversations about suicide, mental health, the sex industry, BDSM, gun violence, and other potentially sensitive topics. Please care for yourself and engage at your own pace. 

❤️‍🩹 Resources

If this conversation brings anything up for you:

• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (US & Canada) - Call or text 988 for free, confidential support.
• Los Angeles Mayor's Crisis Response Team

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This is a preview of the world we're building together through real conversations: intimate, unhurried, grounded in something that feels closer to nature than to media.

Our Garden is still taking root. Come back when we're in season.