The RELEVANT Podcast

Episode 1296: Madison Ryann Ward, American Idol Goes Full Worship & DC3's Historic Win

Tue, 07 Apr 2026 09:30:20 +0000

This week, Cameron, Derek, Emily and Marty cover a ton: American Idol's Songs of Faith Night, which was way more Jesus-heavy this year than last, British Christian rapper DC3 making MOBO Awards history, and the story of Forrest Frank's new indie band having to ditch their name days before releasing their debut album.

In RELEVANT Recommends, we talk to Madison Ryann Ward — an amazing, soulful singer (and former D1 volleyball player) who walked away from Rick Rubin's label after rededicating her life to Christ, and is now showing up everywhere and absolutely thriving.

In Slices, we cover a guy who’s selling a compass that only points to the Olive Garden in Times Square, and the story of 12 tons of stolen Kit Kat bars giving some pretty great April Fool's fodder.

At the end of the episode, we have a great edition of One Has to Go!

Highlights:

00:00 — Intro / Derek Minor's new single "Up"

07:35 — RELEVANT Buzz: American Idol Songs of Faith Night

15:00 — RELEVANT Buzz: DC3 wins two MOBO Awards

17:30 — RELEVANT Buzz: Forrest Frank's new band

24:50 — RELEVANT Recommends: Madison Ryann Ward

33:00 — Slices: Compass pointing to the Olive Garden in Times Square

35:15 — Slices: Someone stole 12 tons of Kit Kat bars

38:30 — One Has to Go: Holidays / Florida animals / Blockbuster night / MTV cartoons / Sports video games

49:00 — Outro

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Indie Tribe, Colbert's LotR Movie, Alabama's Faith & SNL's Christian Rap Connection | Ep. 1295

Tue, 31 Mar 2026 09:30:24 +0000

Cameron, Jesse, Derek and Emily are all back together for a packed episode. In RELEVANT Recommends, we highlight Indie Tribe's new album, Who Do You Say I Am? and caught up with the guys at SXSW to talk about the making of the project and what it says about who they are as a group.

In RELEVANT Buzz: Alabama's basketball team has been quietly building a faith culture all season that's worth knowing about. Then, as Stephen Colbert is wrapping up the Late Show, his next move is pretty unexpected: writing a Lord of the Rings movie with Peter Jackson. And then we highlight an unexpected connection between SNL's newest cast member and Orlando-based Christian rapper Caleb Gordon. For real.

Plus we cover NCAA tournament drama, late night legends ranked, and the high school celebrity alumni rabbit hole (yes, DJ Khaled, Joey Fatone and Wayne Brady went to school together). In Slices: googly eyes are scientifically proven to deter seagulls (and lions), and the world record Big Mac guy has opinions on the Big Arch. And at the end of the show it's One Has to Go: pop icons, board games, classic Comedy Central, sneaker culture and more. We said it was packed.

0:00 — Intro / Derek's back, everybody's been sick

4:00 — The podcast economy is in trouble

11:30 — Mike Lindell gets served mid-interview

19:58 — RELEVANT Buzz

20:30 — NCAA Tournament buzzer beater & Dan Hurley headbutts a ref

23:30 — Alabama basketball's faith culture and Bible study movement

25:45 — Stephen Colbert leaving Late Show; late night legends ranked

27:25 — Colbert is co-writing a Lord of the Rings movie (Shadows of the Past)

33:00 — Unexpected celebrity connections: Snoop & Cameron Diaz, Dr. Phillips HS alumni

34:50 — SNL's Cam Patterson and Christian rapper Caleb Gordon went to school together

39:05 — Slices: Googly eyes deter seagulls (and lions in Botswana)

41:35 — Slices: The Big Mac world record holder reviews the Big Arch

44:42 — RELEVANT Recommends: Indie Tribe's Who Do You Say I Am?

47:37 — Derek on writing albums in lockdown camps

53:00 — One Has to Go: pop icons, comedians, board games, sneakers, Nickelodeon, MTV

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Episode 1294: Pat Barrett, Vince Gilligan and the March Madness Mascot Bracket

Thu, 26 Mar 2026 10:30:18 +0000

Worship leader Pat Barrett — known for "Good Good Father" and "Build My Life" — joins Cameron, Jesse and Emily to talk about his new live album 'Break Open,' why he sat on the title track for nearly a decade, and his late-in-life obsession with surfing (including an upcoming trip to Kelly Slater's Surf Ranch). He also gets honest about how his thinking on songwriting vs. worship leading has shifted, because of course we ask awkward questions.

Also, Emily brings RELEVANT Buzz fresh from South by Southwest, where she sat in on a panel with Vince Gilligan — creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul — who said he thinks he owes the world something better than anti-heroes. Plus: High Point University's Cinderella March Madness run, and the faith story behind Chase Johnston's #99 jersey that everyone's been talking about.

And to close it out — Pat helps the crew run the Sweet 16 mascots through a no-stats, vibes-only bracket challenge to crown the real national champion. Based solely on mascots, not teams. One with a mustache may or may not have won.

Highlights:

0:00 – Why last week's episode was late
2:30 – Starlink satellites
9:30 – Driving gloves
17:50 – RELEVANT Buzz: High Point University's Chase Johnston's #99 story
27:00 – Emily's South by Southwest panel with Vince Gilligan
31:45 – The Lost arc, the Sawyer problem, and what Vince Gilligan owes culture
36:00 – Pat Barrett joins the show
38:30 – Recording 'Break Open' live in a sweaty tent
40:40 – Why the title song sat unreleased for nearly 10 years
42:50 – Songwriting vs. worship leading — what's actually better?
45:20 – Pat's surfing obsession
48:15 – The March Madness Mascot Bracket Challenge

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Episode 1293: Ryan Gosling on 'Project Hail Mary,' a Christian Oscar Nod & the NFL Star Turning Missionary

Mon, 23 Mar 2026 06:30:35 +0000

Ryan Gosling joins the RELEVANT Podcast to talk about his new sci-fi film Project Hail Mary — what made him fall in love with this story and why this one might be a "core memory" film for a generation.

Before that, Emily reports from SXSW to break down the week's biggest faith-and-culture stories: a Christian animated short film made by two Pixar animators and 200 volunteers (including musician Josh Garrels) got nominated for an Oscar. Also Christian apologist Wesley Huff went on the popular podcast 'Diary of a CEO' and told Stephen Bartlett to his face he's going to hell. Plus, NFL quarterback Justin Fields reveals he wants to become a missionary after football.

Then in Slices: the Tooth Fairy economy is growing (Jesse has a lot of thoughts), a huge scandal in a camel beauty pageant, and you'll never be able to predict this week's 'What's Jesse Thinking?' segment. It's a wild ride this week.

Highlights:

00:25 — SxSW breakdown: The decline from tech-and-music powerhouse

07:38 — RELEVANT BUZZ

07:43 — The Office canon errors: a deep dive nobody asked for (Michael Scott's anniversary math)

10:11 — Forevergreen: Oscar-nominated Christian animated short by two Pixar animators + 200 volunteers, featuring Josh Garrels

19:22 — Wesley Huff talks Christianity on 'Diary of a CEO'

26:07 — NFL QB Justin Fields says he wants to be a missionary after football

30:07 — SLICES

30:14 — The Tooth Fairy economy

35:34 — Camel beauty pageant scandal

37:53 — RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Project Hail Mary

43:25 — Ryan Gosling on why he keeps making space movies and why he won't actually go to space

46:42 — Ryan Gosling on why he picked Project Hail Mary — "you would die for this rock alien"

48:54 — Ryan Gosling on Project Hail Mary as a "core memory movie" like E.T. and Back to the Future

50:01 — WHAT'S JESSE THINKING?: Should Golden Corral run the US government?

56:23 — Post-credits: Apology to the estate of Shel Silverstein

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Episode 1292: Colony House, Papa Roach Gets Saved, Iranian Christians, and Kyle Idleman on the Real Jesus

Tue, 10 Mar 2026 09:35:54 +0000

Colony House is back with a new album, and they sat down with Emily to reflect on 10 years of making music and what they want the next decade to look like.

In RELEVANT Buzz: Papa Roach lead singer Jacoby Shaddix shares his powerful faith journey — from foxhole prayer, to sobriety and a faith that sounds like the real thing. We also bring a story flying under the radar: nearly a million Christians are living inside Iran right now, and we hear directly from believers on the ground to get their thoughts on the war and religious freedom.

Plus, the backlash to the Atlanta Hawks announcing "Magic City Night" — a themed game night centered around an infamous Atlanta strip club.Then, pastor Kyle Idleman joins us to talk about how modern American Christianity has slowly turned Jesus into a therapist and self-help guru — and what we've lost in the process. It's a challenge worth sitting with.

In Slices: a Turkish soccer player performs CPR on a seagull he accidentally hit mid-game, United Airlines starts banning passengers who refuse headphones, and we close with a Spring Break edition of Would You Rather.

01:00 — The crocheting trend taking over

03:48 — The appeal of old stuff

10:41 — RELEVANT BUZZ

10:41 — Papa Roach lead singer Jacoby Shaddix shares his Christian testimony. Foxhole prayers, sobriety and millennial rockers finding faith

14:25 — Marty's attempt to join the Elk Club for a Newport parking spot

22:04 — Iranian Christians: nearly 1 million believers inside Iran

28:33 — Atlanta Hawks "Magic City Night"

30:42 — Kyle Idleman interview: How American Christianity has missed the real Jesus

35:16 — SLICES

35:16 — Turkish soccer player performs CPR on a seagull he accidentally hit

41:01 — United Airlines bans passengers who won't use headphones

45:31 — RELEVANT RECOMMENDS: Colony House — 77 Part 2

50:33 — WOULD YOU RATHER: Spring Break Edition | Pullout couches, photo shoots, emo cruises, bad vibes vs. mediocre food, and Marty's 3am cockfight vacation

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Episode 1291: Zachary Levi on His New David Docu-Drama, and Is Revival Actually Happening in America?

Tue, 03 Mar 2026 15:14:45 +0000

Zachary Levi — Chuck, Shazam, and now host of the new docu-drama David: King of Israel — joins us to talk about why the story of David is the one he keeps coming back to. It's a story of someone who's broken, who makes terrible decisions, and who somehow still gets called a man after God's own heart. Levi explains what sets this show apart from all the other David content out there right now and why he thinks everyone needs to hear this story again.

Also in this episode: We've been hearing a lot about revival — from the SEU outpouring to Asbury to rising Bible sales. But does the data actually back that up? We talked to Ryan Burge, a pastor, researcher and political analyst who's spent 20 years studying church trends, and his answer might surprise you. Plus, Gen Z is quietly bringing physical media back, why AI in the operating room is already causing problems, and Jesse drops a statistic about cats and birds that is either shocking or deeply unpopular depending on whether you own a cat.

And it's the spring edition of One Has to Go!

TIMESTAMPS

0:45 — Cameron stress-eating popcorn at the Magic game and them losing because of it

5:45 — RELEVANT Buzz

7:00 — Zach Levi on David: King of Israel

11:15 — DVDs and physical media are making a comeback, thanks to Gen Z

19:00 — Is revival actually happening in America? Researcher Ryan Burge on the data

28:15 — SLICES: Jesse's very unpopular take on cats and birds

36:05 — Derek: AI in the operating room and why we need to pump the brakes

41:00 — ONE HAS TO GO: Spring Edition

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Episode 1290: Elevation Worship's Chris Brown, Plus the Faith Revival in Pro Sports

Tue, 24 Feb 2026 10:30:19 +0000

This week, Elevation Worship's Chris Brown tells us why the band took an extra year off from releasing music — and what their new album ‘So Be It’ sounds like on the other side of that pause. We also hear from Portland Trail Blazers chaplain Mike Tatlock, who talked to us during NBA All-Star Weekend to share what he's seeing behind the scenes: more players showing up to chapel, more genuine conversations about faith, and a tangible spiritual shift across pro sports.

In RELEVANT Buzz, we dig into a new report revealing the alcohol industry has lost $830 billion in the last four years — largely because Gen Z just isn't drinking. Plus, the cast gets real about dealing with hateful internet comments, the Celebrity All-Star Game gets a much-needed fix, and we settle the TGIF sitcom debate once and for all. Oh, and a man at a Nashville Waffle House ordered a hash brown bowl and got bear-sprayed, tased and zip-tied instead. You know, a typical RELEVANT Podcast.

HIGHLIGHTS

01:07 — Jesse Got Roasted on YouTube and It's Eating Him Alive

08:10 — Hate Follows: Why Do People Follow Content That Triggers Them?

10:03 — Golden Rule the Comments Section

12:57 — RELEVANT Buzz: Is A Faith Revival Happening in Pro Sports?

15:12 — NBA Chaplain Mike Tatlock

18:10 — Derek on How Christian Hip Hop Maybe Helped Fuel the Movement

19:31 — What Chaplains Are Seeing Behind the Scenes

23:23 — Jesse's Celebrity All-Star Game Fix: Danny DeVito & Tom Cruise

26:46 — The Worst National Anthems of All Time

31:26 — Gen Z Is Killing the Alcohol Industry — $830 Billion Lost

35:09 — Elevation Worship's Chris Brown on Their New Album So Be It

36:45 — Interview Clip: Why They Took Time Off for the First Time in a Decade

38:08 — SLICES: Buffalo Wild Wings Sued Over "Boneless Wings"

42:10 — A Man Got Bear-Sprayed, Tased & Zip-Tied at Waffle House Over Hash Browns

44:42 — ASK THE CAST: Has Jesse Ever Been Pranked?

45:24 — Jesse's Most Diabolical College Pranks (Alarm Clocks, Air Horns & Peanut Butter)

48:45 — Cameron Put Squirrels in a Guy's Room

49:48 — Dream Guests: The RELEVANT Mount Rushmore

50:31 — Which Cast Member Would You Want to Be Stranded With?

51:05 — Do Your Families Listen to the Podcast?

51:30 — Favorite TGIF Era Sitcom

53:22 — If You Could Go Back to 2003 and Tell Yourself One Thing

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Episode 1289: The Lone Bellow, Plus the Pastor of the SEU Outpouring

Tue, 17 Feb 2026 10:30:36 +0000

This week, Zach Williams from indie-folk band The Lone Bellow joins the show to talk about their new album — including the wild story of how their van was broken into, all their recordings were stolen, and their fans raised enough money to help them start over.

In RELEVANT Buzz, we show you the ongoing worship outpouring happening at Southeastern University in Florida, where students have been in nonstop prayer, worship and confession for the last week (we talk to the campus pastor). We also break down the viral claim that Christian hip hop is the #1 rap subgenre on Spotify — and why it's not actually true.

Plus, a worship pastor goes viral on American Idol, Kevin Durant gets exposed for burner accounts during All-Star Weekend, and a guy who lost a golf bet is now 23 days into eating nothing but Wendy's chili. At the end of the show, we've got Ask the Cast and Jesse and Emily confess to the one question they both regret asking in an interview.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 — Jesse's Super Bowl Spreader Event

05:46 — RELEVANT Buzz: The SEU Outpouring

18:49 — Kevin Durant's Burner Account

22:06 — Is Christian Hip Hop Really Huge on Spotify?

24:44 — Worship Pastor Goes Viral on American Idol

29:26 — RELEVANT Recommends: The Lone Bellow

34:49 — SLICES: The Wendy's Chili Bet

41:31 — AI Is Bad at Medical Advice

45:57 — ASK THE CAST: Embarrassing TikTok Purchases & Weird Google Searches

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Episode 1288: Milo Ventimiglia Tells Us Why He's Starring in a Christian Movie, our Super Bowl Recap & Is Gen Z Getting Dumber?

Tue, 10 Feb 2026 11:06:29 +0000

This week, actor Milo Ventimiglia — known for 'This Is Us,' 'Gilmore Girls' and 'Heroes' — tells us why he chose to star in a new Christian movie, playing real-life worship artist Tim Timmons, who was diagnosed with terminal cancer over 20 years ago and is still defying the odds today.

In RELEVANT Buzz, the crew recaps the Super Bowl — including the incredible story of Seahawks coach Mike McDonald, who followed God's calling to leave the corporate world to take an unpaid internship in coaching. And now 12 years later, it's led to a Super Bowl championship. We also dig into a new study revealing that Gen Z is statistically dumber than their parents (and why that's significant). Plus, Jesse forces the crew to watch the Carman movie trailer, and at the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast! And of course Jesse and Derek have some strong thoughts on Ring cameras and drones.

Highlights:

01:28 — The Olympics and Derek's New Drone

04:59 — Ring Cameras Have Ruined Jesse's Hypothetical Heist

06:18 — The Dark Knight Predicted the Ring Camera Era

09:20 — Apple Is Buying Tech That Can Hear Your Silent Speech

16:29 — RELEVANT BUZZ

19:31 — Coach Mike McDonald: From Accountant to Super Bowl Champion

23:04 — New Study: Gen Z Is Scoring Lower on IQ Tests Than Their Parents

24:40 — The Lost Art of Daydreaming & Why Boredom Matters

30:09 — Milo Ventimiglia on ‘I Can Only Imagine 2’

33:24 — Jesse Makes the Crew Watch the Carman Movie Trailer (Live Reaction)

37:47 — SLICES

38:11 — Man Cited for Juggling Fire on a Unicycle in a Crosswalk

41:11 — Man Breaks Into Little Caesars After Hours & Starts Selling Pizzas

43:09 — ASK THE CAST

44:05 — What Belief Have You Changed Your Mind On?

45:46 — Boundaries You Didn't Know You Could Set

46:40 — What Today Would Shock Yourself 10 Years Ago?

47:18 — Podcast Voice vs. Real Voice

49:48 — Who Has the Worst Music Taste on the Crew?

51:04 — Why Jesse Is a Terrible Texter

52:55 — NBA All-Star Weekend: Does Anyone Care?

53:59 — Outro & YouTube Growth Update

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Episode 1287: Trip Lee's Worship Pivot, Jelly Roll's Grammy Sermon & Free Iguanas in Miami

Tue, 03 Feb 2026 10:13:39 +0000

This week, legendary Christian rapper Trip Lee tells us about his unexpected move into worship music with his new album. Before that, the crew swaps stories from last week's historic winter storm—Emily survived three days without power in freezing temps and Jesse narrowly avoided going to a fun Orlando Magic game with Cameron.

In RELEVANT Buzz, we break down Jelly Roll's powerful Grammy acceptance moment, plus the youngest Grammy winner at just eight years old. We also dive into new research showing the vast majority of people want authentic faith representation in TV and movies, and then Emily previews two interesting new shows: Jury Duty Season 2's unexpected premise and Neighbors, HBO and A24's reality series about strangers forced to live together.

Plus, Jesse announces his new podcast Target Intelligence: Psyop and Derek plugs his brand-new show, You Can't Say That in Church. Jesse of course brings his most rewatched video of the week: a Medieval Combat League warrior armed with a real axe who keeps targeting opponents from behind with hilarious headshots. Then in SLICES we cover Miami's iguana apocalypse—dinosaurs falling from trees as residents collect them by the armload (and definitely aren't disposing of them properly).

And to close it out, it's Super Bowl week, so we're playing a special edition of "One Has to Go" covering everything from iconic Super Bowl commercials and halftime show moments to game-day snacks and controversial performances. Spoiler: mozzarella sticks do not survive Jesse's hot take.

Highlights:

00:00 — Intro & Winter Storm Survival Stories

07:43 — RELEVANT Buzz

08:00 — Jelly Roll's Powerful Grammy Acceptance Speech

11:27 — Eight-Year-Old Becomes Youngest Grammy Winner in History

12:33 — New Study: 92% of Viewers Want Authentic Faith in TV & Movies

16:37 — Jury Duty Season 2 Preview: Hot Sauce Company Chaos

18:00 — Neighbors: HBO and A24's New Reality Series

24:00 — Medieval Combat League Axe Warrior Goes Viral

31:09 — Trip Lee

32:00 — Why Trip Lee Made a Worship Album After Years in Hip-Hop

35:00 — Trip Lee on Being a Teaching Pastor and Collaborating With Worship Leaders

37:00 — SLICES: Miami's Iguana Apocalypse

43:30 — Super Bowl Edition: "One Has to Go" Game

45:53 — Iconic Super Bowl Commercials (Doritos, Tide, QR Code)

46:21 — Controversial Super Bowl Ads (GoDaddy, Carl's Jr., Axe)

47:04 — Super Bowl Snacks Face-Off (Doritos, Lay's, Pringles)

47:30 — Soda Showdown (Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, Mountain Dew)

48:00 — Jesse's Mozzarella Stick Hot Take Sparks Chaos

49:31 — Halftime Show Showdown (Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Beyoncé)

50:01 — Most Controversial Halftime Moments (Nipplegate, Dancing Sharks)

50:52 — Halftime Props (JLo's Pole, Usher's Skates, Dr. Dre's Lowrider)

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Episode 1286: Chris Pratt on Faith, Fame and Finding Purpose Beyond Hollywood

Tue, 27 Jan 2026 17:45:07 +0000

This week, we talk to ‘Mercy’ star Chris Pratt about how faith shapes his life and career. He opens up about navigating public narratives, using his platform with purpose and why he believes being open about faith matters more than ever.

In RELEVANT Buzz, the crew dives into Jelly Roll’s moving moment on 'Star Search,' why Gen Z is intentionally disconnecting from their phones and whether music is actually getting sadder. Plus, stories about AI fatigue, bizarre license plate drama, a ketchup packet felony and a guy trying to create a new nation in Texas. And at the end of the show, don't miss the Best Game Ever!

Highlights:

01:00 Storm prep anxiety and riding it out

03:27 The man who tried to start his own country in Texas

06:56 The confidence of mediocre white men

18:23 RELEVANT Buzz

18:53 Jelly Roll’s Gospel moment on Star Search

21:58 Study finds popular music is getting sadder

24:36 Gen Z intentionally disconnecting from phones

30:10 Chris Pratt

36:40 SLICES

38:38 Mr. Potato Head license plate controversy

39:34 Florida man charged over ketchup packet

45:14 “Best Game Ever”

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Episode 1285: Chelsea Smith on Dating, Marriage and What Actually Makes Love Last

Tue, 20 Jan 2026 10:30:17 +0000

This week, we sit down with Chelsea Smith to talk about dating wisely, building a resilient marriage and navigating seasons when love feels harder than usual. She shares practical advice for singles, couples and anyone wondering if what they’re experiencing is normal.

In RELEVANT Buzz, we unpack the rise of political independents among Gen Z and millennials, Brandon Lake’s Good Morning America moment and why Christian hip-hop is showing up at Rolling Loud.

Plus, the crew debates whether it’s easier to bowl a perfect game or hit a hole-in-one for a million dollars, discusses illegal monkeys in St. Louis and breaks down Gen Z’s newest solution to burnout: a “retirement home” in Malaysia.

Highlights:

06:30 – Million-dollar question: perfect bowling game or hole-in-one?

16:05 – RELEVANT Buzz

16:15 – Christian hip-hop at Rolling Loud

18:10 – Brandon Lake on Good Morning America (and the Maury joke)

20:45 – Gallup: Gen Z and millennials are going independent

31:40 – Chelsea Smith on dating

33:55 – What every healthy marriage needs

35:30 – Advice for couples in hard seasons

37:55 – Our new partnership with 316 Financial + Reset Series

42:25 – Slices

42:45 – St. Louis offers amnesty for illegal monkey owners

47:05 – A Gen Z “retirement home” opens in Malaysia

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Episode 1284: Khloé Kardashian Talks Faith, A ‘Stranger Things’ Star Does Too, and Philip Yancey’s Scandal

Tue, 13 Jan 2026 11:01:34 +0000

In this episode of The RELEVANT Podcast, we break down a surprisingly faith-heavy week in pop culture.

In RELEVANT Buzz, Khloé Kardashian opens up in depth about her faith and prayer life, Stranger Things star Caleb McLaughlin shares why he’s returning to faith after growing up as a pastor’s kid. Then we discuss news at the other end of the spectrum: Bestselling Christian author Philip Yancey stepping away from ministry after confessing to an eight-year extramarital affair and Christian pop singer Stacie Orrico’s lawsuit alleging childhood sexual abuse by her former manager. We wrap things on an up-note, highlighting Daniel Caesar’s spiritually charged Tiny Desk performance.

Plus, the crew reacts to DMX’s posthumous ordination, Jesse spirals over the murder math of NCIS, shares a wild Lamar Odom encounter and we play another round of ‘Overrated, Underrated or Just Right.’

Highlights:

03:00 Jesse’s NCIS take and the Navy murder math spiral

14:15 RELEVANT Buzz begins

17:05 Khloé Kardashian opens up about her Christian faith

28:15 Caleb McLaughlin talks faith, deconstruction and returning to God

31:55 Philip Yancey steps away from ministry after affair confession

34:35 Stacie Orrico files lawsuit alleging childhood sexual abuse

37:50 Daniel Caesar’s Tiny Desk and his spiritual journey

39:20 Slices: Lottery odds website exposes Powerball math

44:10 DMX to be posthumously recognized as a minister

46:05 Game: Overrated, Underrated or Just Right (Part 2)

47:15 Mayonnaise, squats and Chris Hemsworth

49:00 Pet fish, LaCroix and Philip Yancey books

50:00 Air fryers, motorcycles and voice notes

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Episode 1283: The Top Young Adult Faith Questions, Weird Guinness Records & CITIZENS Frontman Zach Bolen

Tue, 06 Jan 2026 11:00:55 +0000

This week, we tackle the biggest faith questions young adults are asking right now (according to the recent Passion Conference) — from evidence for God’s existence and the tension between free will and predestination, to suffering, salvation and thoughts on hell. It’s an honest conversation about doubt, belief and why curiosity might be essential to spiritual growth.

From there, Emily sits down with CITIZENS frontman Zach Bolen to talk about the band’s new album Museum, being in the Christian music bubble while feeling like an outsider and why art doesn’t need to explain itself to be meaningful.

Plus, Jesse has some thoughts over the increasingly unhinged Guinness World Records, from pigs on skateboards to LEGO-related pain tolerance, and the crew plays a round of “Overrated, Underrated or Just Right,” covering reboots, word-of-the-year culture and more!

Highlights:

3:10 New Year check-in

4:20 The Crown

5:25 Why New Year’s TV is terrible

9:55 Fireworks gone wrong

14:15 RELEVANT BUZZ

17:05 The top faith questions young adults are asking at the Passion Conference

31:00 Awards season highlights

38:30 Zach Bolen of CITIZENS

42:10 Faith, deconstruction, and the Nashville bubble

46:20 Curiosity as a spiritual discipline

50:10 SLICES

50:14 Guinness World Records need a reboot

56:20 OVERRATED, UNDERRATED, OR JUST RIGHT?

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Episode 1282: Our New Year Episode — Bieber’s Faith, Jesse’s Patriot Games and Very Accurate 2026 Predictions!

Tue, 30 Dec 2025 10:30:25 +0000

We wrap up 2025 and kick off 2026 by catching up on everything from post-holiday chaos to the optimism that comes with starting a new year. Along the way, we touch on Justin Bieber’s recent reflections on faith, how people in 1998 predicted 2025, and surprising new archeological evidence that Noah's Ark was real.

From there, the episode takes a turn into full chaos as Jesse introduces his own idea for the “Patriot Games”: teams of Americans competing using everyday life skills, jury duty-style. The episode then wraps with the cast predicting the trends of 2026 — all delivered with the usual mix of humor, honesty and side-tracking that makes the show what it is.

Highlights:

05:10 — Spring-free trampolines and modern parenting stress

07:40 — Childhood injuries, backyard chaos and growing up feral

12:30 — The unspoken pressure of being “the capable adult”

13:33 — SLICES: Noah’s Ark evidence

25:03 — 1998 predicts 2025

31:53 — Justin Bieber’s faith posts

30:45 — WHAT'S JESSE THINKING? Jesse introduces his Patriot Games concept

43:20 — IN OR OUT? Predicting 2026

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Episode 1281: Our Christmas Episode! Why Does December Feel So Unhinged?

Tue, 23 Dec 2025 11:30:33 +0000

In our Christmas episode, Cameron Strang, Jesse Carey, Derek Minor and Emily Brown dive into a packed RELEVANT Buzz, including NFL players putting faith into action in unexpected ways, a Christian animated film debuting near the top of the box office, Timothée Chalamet unexpectedly singing Kirk Franklin and a spontaneous worship moment from Justin Bieber that caught the internet’s attention.

The crew also tackles one of the most important questions of the season: what actually makes a perfect Christmas day? From wake-up times and breakfast spreads to family expectations, church plans and evening traditions, they attempt—somewhat successfully—to agree on a Christmas schedule everyone can enjoy.

Plus, it’s an Ask the Cast: Christmas Edition, with listener questions about end-of-year burnout, holiday boundaries and when it’s officially time to stop saying “Merry Christmas.”

Highlights:

1:00 – Emily’s Quilt Room Setup

4:00 – RELEVANT BUZZ

4:30 – Baltimore Ravens Wash Kids Feet

8:20 – David Hits No. 2 at the Box Office

11:30 – Is Avatar Still Impressive?

14:30 – Timothée Chalamet Sings Kirk Franklin

24:30 – Justin Bieber’s Worship Moment

25:45 – Designing the Perfect Christmas Day

36:12 – SLICES: The 6-7 Meme Gets Real

44:05 – The World's Largest Gingerbread Home Alone House

46:05 – ASK THE CAST: Christmas Edition

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Impact Conversations: TreVeyon Henderson on Faith & the NFL and Lecrae on Reconstruction & Legacy

Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:30:39 +0000

In the final episode of the RELEVANT Podcast Impact Conversations series, we sit down with two influential voices using their platforms to point toward something deeper.

First, New England Patriots rookie running back TreVeyon Henderson shares how his faith was shaped long before the NFL spotlight. From a season-ending injury at Ohio State that led him to Jesus to helping spark faith gatherings across campus, Henderson talks about spiritual leadership, obedience over outcomes, and what it looks like to follow Christ inside high-pressure locker rooms. His story is also featured in the new docuseries Redemption, now streaming on Prime Video via The Wonder Project.

Then, Lecrae, one of the most influential figures in Christian hip-hop, joins the conversation following the release of his 10th album, Reconstruction. He reflects on misunderstanding, therapy, deconstruction and why he believes Christian hip-hop is entering a new era without categories. Lecrae also opens up about legacy, leadership, and his role as a bridge between faith and culture.

This episode is presented by World Vision, a global Christian humanitarian organization working to tackle the root causes of poverty and injustice worldwide.

Chapters:

01:15 – Why TreVeyon Henderson uses his NFL platform for faith

02:01 – Growing up with football as a lifeline

04:24 – When faith became real during a season-ending injury

06:40 – Sleep paralysis, spiritual warfare and healing through prayer

08:28 – Faith leadership inside Ohio State football

11:33 – Carrying faith into the NFL locker room

12:58 – Spiritual disciplines and the “secret place”

16:21 – Why faith is rising among professional athletes

18:56 – Why Henderson highlighted persecuted Christians in Nigeria

22:45 – Lecrae on why Reconstruction is different

24:53 – Transparency vs vulnerability in creative work

26:08 – Therapy, confidence and owning your voice

29:25 – Why Lecrae chose the word “Reconstruction”

30:46 – Leadership, loneliness and stewardship

33:01 – The future of Christian hip-hop

34:41 – Lecrae on legacy and being a bridge between faith and culture

44:17 – How Reconstruction invites people back to faith

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Episode 1280: Director Rian Johnson on Faith, Doubt and the Christian Themes in ‘Knives Out’

Tue, 16 Dec 2025 10:30:32 +0000

Rian Johnson’s new Knives Out film, 'Wake Up Dead Man,' is sparking conversations few mainstream movies ever touch — faith, forgiveness, power and what it actually means to follow Jesus in a polarized world.

In this episode, we talk with the filmmaker about growing up in the Church, walking away from faith and why Christ’s teachings — especially “love your enemy” — still shape the stories he wants to tell. Johnson opens up about wrestling with the us-versus-them mentality, the corrupting pull of power and influence, and why he wanted to portray Christian belief with empathy rather than caricature.

Plus, the RELEVANT crew debates the best Christmas movie of all time in a chaotic bracket showdown, reacts to surprising year-end culture stories and discusses new research suggesting adolescence doesn’t actually end until age 32.

HIGHLIGHTS:

01:40 – Why 'Wake Up Dead Man' Feels Like a Gospel Story

04:00 – Serving vs. Fighting: Faith and the Culture War

06:45 – Why Culture Is More Open to Spiritual Conversations

09:20 – Is Wake Up Dead Man the Best Knives Out Movie?

12:10 – Is Rian Johnson Done With Faith?

13:10 – Christianity vs. Church Culture

20:15 – RELEVANT Buzz

22:00 – Forrest Frank Breaks Into Google’s “Hum to Search” List

26:30 – Theo Von and Morgan Wallen’s Bible Study Revealed

32:00 – Rian Johnson on Growing Up Evangelical

34:00 – “Arms Wide Open vs. Fists Up” Faith Explained

39:00 — SLICES

39:20 – New Research Says Adolescence Lasts Until Age 32

45:15 – AI Reality TV Is Here (Unfortunately)

47:30 – Christmas Movie Bracket Challenge

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Episode 1279: Andy Mineo

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 10:30:51 +0000

This week, Andy Mineo joins us for a hilarious and surprisingly vulnerable conversation about reinvention, perfectionism, leaving Reach Records, making his first album in four years and why he almost drove himself crazy trying to get it right. Plus, the cast dives into:

– Brandon Lake dominating Billboard’s year-end charts

– The ER vs The Pitt IP controversy

– Ticketmaster’s takedown

– TreVeyon Henderson spotlighting persecuted Christians on the field

– A chaotic game of “One Has to Go” that reveals way too much (about Andy)

CHAPTERS:

1:20 – '90s nostalgia, ER and the IP drama behind The Pitt

10:25 – RELEVANT Buzz: Brandon Lake ruled 2025

15:45 – Olivia Dean takes on Ticketmaster

19:50 – TreVeyon Henderson highlights persecuted Christians in Nigeria

21:50 – Andy Mineo joins the show

22:20 – Why his new album took four years

23:40 – Perfectionism, analysis paralysis and moving faster

27:10 – More new music is already loading

28:35 – Andy & Marty’s 15-year friendship origin story

32:05 – “One Has to Go” with Andy

41:55 – Parenting, nostalgia and movies that don’t hit the same

44:15 – 80s/90s PG movies were NOT PG

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Impact Conversation Series: Madi Prewett Troutt and Ben Higgins

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 10:30:38 +0000

Two former Bachelor stars. Two very different, but impactful, post-show paths. One episode about what it really looks like to use your platform well.

In this new installment of The RELEVANT Podcast: Impact Conversations, Emily Brown and Cameron Strang sit down with Madi Prewett Troutt and Ben Higgins to talk about life after reality TV, spiritual growth, calling, purpose, and how to steward influence in a way that actually matters.

First, Emily talks with Madi Prewett Troutt, who has spent the last five years immersed in ministry—preaching, writing, podcasting, discipling young women, and building a life rooted deeply in Scripture and the local church. She opens up about spiritual transformation, accountability, confession, motherhood, leadership, and learning to stay true to her convictions even when it’s costly.

Then Cameron sits down with Ben Higgins, who—after his time on The Bachelor—built Generous Coffee, launched multiple businesses, stepped into a major faith-centered role at iHeartRadio, and wrote a book on connection. Ben shares candidly about anxiety, purpose, fatherhood, entrepreneurship, and using business as a vehicle for generosity and Kingdom impact.

If you’ve ever wondered how to live out your calling, use your platform responsibly, walk in integrity, or navigate fame and faith in a digital age—this episode is rich, honest, and deeply encouraging.

Presented by World Vision.

HIGHLIGHTS:

01:50 — Madi Prewett Troutt

02:13 — Madi on how her life has changed since The Bachelor

04:57 — Moving from motivational speaking to biblical teaching

07:11 — How moving and finding a new church shaped her spiritual growth

09:57 — How Madi discerns what God is calling her to speak into

12:21 — Choosing conviction over comfort

16:53 — Breaking secret sin cycles and finding freedom

22:14 — Protecting peace and setting boundaries on social media

28:23 — Why Madi launched her podcast and how God led the timing

33:37 — Learning patience when God says “wait”

38:21 — Ben Higgins

41:28 — Life/work balance as a new dad

43:30 — What Ben does for work now

45:49 — How his role at iHeartRadio is expanding into faith initiatives

50:39 — Rethinking conferences, creativity, and reaching the disconnected

52:29 — Mike Foster’s coaching

56:03 — Restaurant ventures, investing and avoiding AI-replaceable spaces

59:16 — Why his new book is about connection (not fame)

1:02:11 — Feeling like an outsider and the moment everything changed

1:04:47 — How vulnerability unexpectedly connected him with millions

1:07:21 — Did The Bachelor change him?

1:10:06 — A friend’s advice that shifted his entire approach to fame

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Episode 1278: Rend Collective's Chris Llewellyn

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 10:40:43 +0000

Chris Llewellyn from Irish folk worship band Rend Collective joins us to talk about the band’s new album 'Christmas in Belfast,' the surprising Irish traditions behind it and what it’s like navigating life between Ireland and Nashville.

We also break down the biggest stories in faith and culture, including NF’s record-setting Billboard debut, the wild rise of AI-generated music, and Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s faith-forward breakout. Plus, the crew swaps celebrity-encounter stories and brings Chris into a special holiday round of “One Has to Go.”

CHAPTERS:

02:00 – Jesse spots an SNL cast member at the airport

06:30 – Marty’s celebrity encounters at LAX

08:30 – Cameron’s wild Kanye West airport story

09:40 – RELEVANT Buzz

09:55 – NF’s massive Billboard debut

12:00 – AI music platform Suno is creating 7 million songs a day

14:20 – Is AI killing creativity? The crew debates

19:10 – Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s record-breaking game & public faith

24:10 – Chris Llewellyn of Rend Collective

24:40 – The story behind Christmas in Belfast

26:40 – Irish Christmas traditions & late-night candlelit services

27:50 – Gaelic football, Welsh kickers & Jesse’s confusion

29:55 – Chris on moving from Ireland to Nashville

31:00 – How Irish political history shaped his view of division

32:15 – Holiday Edition of “One Has to Go” with Chris

35:35 – Marty’s trauma with board games

36:10 – Brunch vs. naps: the debate

38:00 – Emily vs. “crisp evenings”

39:00 – Snoopy, Peanuts, and Christmas ornament chaos

40:45 – Group prayer handholding horrors

43:30 – Emily’s tiny tabletop Christmas tree revelation

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Impact Conversation Series: Tara-Leigh Cobble and Art Rainer

Mon, 01 Dec 2025 05:50:57 +0000

On this episode of our Impact Conversations series, we sit down with Tara-Leigh Cobble, creator of The Bible Recap — one of the most influential Bible-reading podcasts in the world. Tara-Leigh shares how The Bible Recap started, how she built a global Bible-reading community and what she’s learned about Scripture, calling and obedience along the way. If you’re trying to understand the Bible or want to stay consistent in your Bible reading plan, this conversation is for you.

We also feature a bonus interview with Christian financial expert Art Rainer, who breaks down how to approach money, generosity and financial stress from a biblical perspective. If you’re looking for Christian financial advice, how to give when money is tight or how to steward your resources well, you’ll want to hear this.

Presented by World Vision.

CHAPTERS:

02:37 — Tara-Leigh Cobble: How The Bible Recap Started

06:04 — Building the podcast with a $99 mic

08:45 — When the calling gets costly

10:55 — The story that kept her going

14:43 — Leadership, discernment and calling

16:49 — Feeling unqualified but called

21:09 — Advice for taking your first step

23:17 — Bonus Interview: Art Rainer

26:13 — Money is a tool, not a goal

28:10 — How to be generous when money is tight

33:31 — Giving, debt and proportional generosity

37:00 — Creative ways to be generous without money

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Episode 1277: Can We Trust Anything Online Anymore? A Christian Look at AI, Social Media and All Those Rigged Charts

Tue, 25 Nov 2025 10:30:49 +0000

This week on The RELEVANT Podcast, we dive into the strange new digital reality Christians are wrestling with — from AI artists topping the Christian charts to foreign troll farms shaping what we see online, even in faith spaces. Throughout the show, we keep asking one big question: can we trust anything online anymore?

Plus, we talk Kristen Bell’s surprise appearance on a Fox News Bible podcast (and her feelings about that), Nate Bargatze’s real-life theme park, weird holiday debates, outlawed pickleball, Thanksgiving pizza and a lot more. It’s a holiday-week hangout episode with Cameron, Jesse and Emily — no guest, just chaos, honesty and a lot of laughs.

0:35 – Why do our YouTube views explode days later?

6:00 – Thanksgiving: the obligation holiday?

7:30 – When do you become the “main house” for holidays?

8:30 – Jesse’s traumatic Big Lots Thanksgiving miracle

14:20 – RELEVANT Buzz: AI tops the Christian charts

24:30 – Kristen Bell accidentally starring in a Fox News Bible podcast

30:40 – Nate Bargatze is opening a theme park?!

36:30 – SLICES: Pickleball banned in California

39:30 – The Elvis Judge saga

43:00 – Thanksgiving pizza: yes or no?

44:30 – ONE HAS TO GO: Holiday Edition

50:30 – Matching Christmas pajamas

51:15 – Final thoughts

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Episode 1276: Passion's Kristian Stanfill on Sobriety, Freedom and His Most Honest Album Yet

Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:30:23 +0000

Worship leader and Passion artist Kristian Stanfill joins us to talk about the long road from addiction to five years of sobriety, the moment everything changed and how his new album 'Come to Jesus' was born from real healing and real joy.

Cameron, Jesse, Derek and Emily also bring RELEVANT Buzz, our weekly breakdown of the latest at the intersection of faith and culture — and of course, we close the show with Slices, where the crew dives into the funniest, weirdest and most unexpected stories the internet has to offer.

Show Highlights

01:25 — Denver altitude, sinus infections & Cameron’s Chap Stick disaster

04:36 — The Colorado horse-ride saga and Derek’s conspiracy theories

08:55 — RELEVANT Buzz

09:00 — Daniel Caesar’s faith-filled album hits the charts

11:00 — The wild bike-prank video Jesse found on his cursed algorithm

12:05 — Vine is officially coming back… sort of

16:20 — Jenna Jameson gets baptized and shares her story

18:15 — Guest: Kristian Stanfill joins the show

18:45 — Why he made a solo album (Come to Jesus)

21:00 — “I needed a revelation of Jesus” — Kristian on what actually changed him

26:15 — What year four to year five of sobriety taught him

27:20 — The power of community, vulnerability and refusing isolation

28:15 — Advice for pastors, leaders and anyone afraid to ask for help

31:20 — Does he get tired of talking about his darkest season?

33:55 — Slices: A horse falls into a family’s backyard pool

39:20 — An AI song hits No. 1 on the country charts

45:55 — Congress quietly bans Delta-8 and similar THC products

48:20 — The dark side of unregulated synthetic drugs

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Impact Conversation Series: Bear Grylls and Bobby Gruenewald

Fri, 14 Nov 2025 06:16:08 +0000

In this episode of the RELEVANT Podcast Impact Conversation Series, we sit down with two leaders who have shaped the faith lives of billions.

First, adventurer and global TV icon Bear Grylls opens up about how the wilderness taught him about spiritual survival. It’s one of Bear’s most personal and honest conversations ever — covering doubt, faith, courage and why he believes Jesus’ life is the greatest adventure of all.

Then, YouVersion founder Bobby Gruenewald joins us fresh off a historic milestone: one billion downloads of the Bible App. He shares the wild origin story of YouVersion, how God exceeded every expectation, how to steward faith in a tech-driven world and why Gen Z is turning to Scripture like never before.

This episode is part of our special Impact Series sponsored by World Vision, whose community-focused work is changing lives around the globe. Learn more and get involved at WorldVision.org/RELEVANT.

CHAPTERS

00:00 — Introduction from Cameron Strang

02:19 — Emily Brown sits down with Bear Grylls

02:30 — Writing Jesus’ story as a thriller (and why no one had done it)

05:13 — How his new book began in the middle of the jungle

07:33 — Physical survival and spiritual survival: where they intersect

09:22 — Faith, doubt, fear and the courage to keep going

11:19 — What surprised Bear most after rereading the Bible three times

13:23 — Working with The Chosen and making “Chosen in the Wild”

16:07 — Why faith is breaking through in entertainment right now

18:20 — The first time Bear spoke publicly about faith (yes, including Obama)

20:07 — Cameron wraps Bear’s segment and introduces Bobby Gruenewald of YouVersion

21:49 — How a security line in Chicago sparked the Bible App

23:57 — Launching on Day 1 of the App Store… with zero Apple contacts

27:59 — What surprised him about global Bible engagement

30:48 — Balancing ministry and data while staying donor-supported

33:20 — From serial entrepreneur to lifelong ministry calling

37:26 — Where faith and technology are headed next

41:52 — AI, ethics and why YouVersion refuses to rush a chatbot

44:09 — What Bobby hopes YouVersion’s legacy will be 50 years from now

49:22 — Gen Z’s surprising hunger for Scripture

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Episode 1275: Kings Kaleidoscope's Chad Gardner Joins the Show!

Tue, 11 Nov 2025 18:42:47 +0000

This week, Kings Kaleidoscope’s Chad Gardner joins us to talk about the band’s new album, “Asaph's Arrows II,” a return to their roots reimagining classic hymns. He opens up about creative integrity, the lessons of Mars Hill, and how the band’s journey has reshaped his view of worship and art. Plus, the cast tackles haircut horror stories, the SNAP funding freeze, Mike Todd’s viral Breakfast Club interview and this year’s weirdest scientific discoveries.

Highlights:

1:00 – Intros

10:45 – The Great Hair Debate: Who has the courage to stop a bad haircut in progress?

11:00 – RELEVANT Buzz: This week’s headlines at the intersection of faith and culture

11:15 – SNAP Funding Freeze: 42 million Americans face a food crisis — what Christians can actually do to help

12:15 – Church vs. State: Who’s really responsible for feeding the hungry?

17:30 – Mike Todd on The Breakfast Club: Why he went viral (again)

25:20 – Special Guest: Kings Kaleidoscope’s Chad Gardner joins to talk about the band’s new album, “Asaph’s Arrows II”

26:00 – Back to the Beginning: Why Kings is remaking hymns after a decade of experimentation

30:10 – “The rose that grew from concrete”: How Mars Hill shaped Kings Kaleidoscope’s DNA

36:15 – The Future of Kings Kaleidoscope: How Kings might return to leading church worship

42:00 – SLICES:

• Jesse’s “Ig Nobel Awards” — scientists prove drunk bats fly worse and cows painted like zebras get fewer fly bites

• Marty’s Vintage Gaming Corner — a Russian Sims 2 love story gone terribly wrong

52:46 — Marty tells us about his exciting new project

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Episode 1274: Why Gen Z Women Are Leaving the Church: Sociologist Ashley LaLonde Explains

Tue, 04 Nov 2025 18:39:35 +0000

Christian researcher, sociologist and Hamilton actress Ashley LaLonde joins The RELEVANT Podcast to unpack new data revealing why more Gen Z women are walking away from church. She explains how purity culture, politics and the lack of space for single or career-focused women are reshaping faith for a generation. It's a must-listen conversation! Plus, we have RELEVANT Buzz and Slices

1:00 – The Crew Debates Big Napkin: Jesse exposes the “decorative napkin industrial complex.”

6:30 – The Dollar Tree Uprising: The cast demands rebranding to “$1.25 Tree.”

8:00 – Smooth Pivot Attempt: Cameron tries to move from napkins to faith and culture.

9:00 – RELEVANT Buzz: This week’s headlines at the intersection of faith and culture

9:15 – Frankie Muniz Finds God: The Malcolm in the Middle star’s surprising faith story

12:00 – Christian Music Chart Update: Josiah Queen, Phil Wickham, and the rise of worship on Billboard’s Hot 100

15:45 – Hip-Hop’s Chart Collapse: No rap songs in the Top 40 for the first time in 35 years

16:00 – Derek’s Deep Dive: Why hip-hop lost its cultural soul — from gatekeepers to gentrification

25:00 – Special Guest: Ashley LaLonde (Barna Group / Hamilton) joins to talk about the new Barna study on Gen Z women and faith

26:45 – Why Gen Z Women Are Leaving the Church: Ashley explains the data — 38% now religiously unaffiliated

27:30 – The Purity Culture Fallout: How sexual shame and rigid gender roles alienated a generation

28:10 – Politics and the Pulpit: How Christian nationalism and partisanship push women away

29:20 – The Marriage Idol: Are churches overvaluing family and under-serving single women?

30:45 – Solidarity and Inclusion: Why many young women leave in support of LGBTQ friends

31:50 – Social Capital Shift: Why church is still “advantageous” for men but costly for women socially

32:40 – A New Kind of Spiritual Hunger: How disengaged women are still deeply curious about faith

34:10 – The Marriage Question: How this trend could reshape Christian dating and marriage rates

35:00 – Ashley’s Challenge to the Church: How to re-engage single women and rethink discipleship

36:10 – The Urban Divide: Are cities different from suburbs? Ashley offers insight

38:00 – The Fallout of Scandal: How church abuse crises have eroded trust among women

39:15 – Reckoning with Failure: Ashley calls the Church to repent for how it’s treated women

40:00 – Ashley’s Story: From Harvard to Hamilton to Barna Group — how faith shaped her calling

42:45 – Perseverance and Purpose: Six years of rejection before booking Hamilton

43:40 – From Broadway to Research: How she now combines creativity, sociology and ministry

44:30 – The cast reacts — “That was the most insightful segment we’ve ever done.”

45:00 – SLICES:

• Jesse’s “Aggressive Research Monkeys on the Loose” story

• Derek’s real-life 'Suits' case — the fake lawyer who won 26 cases

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IMPACT Conversation Series — David Meltzer & Mark Batterson

Fri, 31 Oct 2025 03:40:50 +0000

In this episode of our IMPACT Conversation Series, entrepreneur David Meltzer shares how losing everything led him to redefine success through faith, gratitude and purpose. Then, pastor and author Mark Batterson unpacks the message behind his new bookGradually Then Suddenly — why breakthroughs happen slowly, then all at once. Hosted by Cameron Strang and presented by World Vision, these conversations explore what it really means to make an impact through business, ministry and everyday faith.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 — Introduction with Cameron Strang

01:18 — World Vision partnership + mission spotlight

02:30 — David Meltzer joins the conversation

04:00 — Losing everything and redefining success

07:10 — Rebuilding faith, gratitude, and purpose

10:45 — How business can be a tool for impact

14:20 — The balance between ambition and surrender

18:05 — Closing thoughts from Cameron

21:25 — Introduction to Mark Batterson

21:40 — “Gradually Then Suddenly”: the meaning behind the title

23:00 — The myth of overnight success

24:20 — Why faith often moves at the speed of a seed

25:55 — Persistence: the bridge between failure and breakthrough

28:30 — Discerning when to persist and when to pivot

30:50 — How to stay faithful in the “gradually” seasons

32:45 — Encouragement for those still waiting for their “suddenly”

35:40 — Final reflections from Mark Batterson

36:54 — Cameron Strang outro + next episode tease

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Episode 1272: The NBA Gambling Scandal, Daniel Caesar’s Faith Journey & What Happens After We Die

Tue, 28 Oct 2025 09:30:59 +0000

This week the crew breaks down the NBA’s shocking gambling scandal, Daniel Caesar’s unexpected faith journey, and what actually happens after we die. Plus, Jelly Roll launches a free rehab center, Emily questions if Florida makes the cut for the New Earth and Jesse warns us about smart beds gone rogue.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro

01:15 The NBA Gambling Scandal → Chauncey Billups, the mafia & a Walter White theory

15:00 RELEVANT Buzz: Daniel Caesar’s Faith Journey & New Album

22:00 Jelly Roll’s Free Rehab Center

24:00 Faith Charting Again on Prime Video + Hollywood vs. Christian Storytelling

27:00 “What Happens When We Die?” — Cameron Breaks Down Heaven, The Good Place & the Bible’s Timeline

35:00 Afterlife Debate → New Earth, Time & Purpose in Eternity

45:00 SLICES: Smart Beds Gone Wild & The Robot Uprising

New video episodes of The RELEVANT Podcast drop every Tuesday on the RELEVANT Podcast Youtube channel!

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Episode 1271: What Real Faith Looks Like (and Should Christians Celebrate Halloween?)

Tue, 21 Oct 2025 09:41:51 +0000

After reflecting on their recent conversation with viral creator Jimmy Darts, the crew dives into what living out real faith actually looks like — not just believing the right things, but showing compassion and generosity in everyday life. Then they tackle the big October question: should Christians celebrate Halloween, or skip the costumes altogether?

In RELEVANT Buzz, they unpack Mel Gibson’s questionable new Resurrection of the Christ casting, AI’s takeover of the internet, and Miley Cyrus’ surprising thoughts on sobriety. Plus, in Slices, wild stories about speeding tickets, Switzerland’s $100K fines, and self-driving cars gone rogue.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Cameron’s New Setup

05:44 A Serious Discussion About Facial Hair

10:23 Reflecting on Our ‘Impact Series’ Conversation With Jimmy Darts

16:28 Showing Compassion in Everyday Life

18:32 Shaming for Generosity: A New Approach

18:56 RELEVANT Buzz

19:07 Mel Gibson Recast Jesus

24:28 The Internet Is Now 50% AI-Generated Content

32:06 Why Miley Cyrus Got Sober

35:26 SLICES

35:38 Don’t Get a Ticket in Switzerland

41:57 But Can You Ticket a Robot?

45:31 Should Christians Celebrate Halloween?

59:10 ASK THE CAST

01:00:10 What Would Your 16-Year-Old Self Think of You Now?

01:02:16 What Cringey Christian Thing Do You Secretly Still Love?

01:06:29 What’s an Unexpected Hill You’ll Die On?

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IMPACT Conversation Series: Jimmy Darts

Thu, 16 Oct 2025 08:50:57 +0000

We believe every follower of Jesus is called to make a difference — and in this special bonus series, we’re sitting down with creators, leaders and dreamers who are doing just that.

In this episode, we kick things off with Jimmy Darts — GoFundMe’s top creator, known for surprising strangers with life-changing generosity. His videos have reached hundreds of millions, but behind it all is a simple mission: to show the world what God’s love looks like in action.

The RELEVANT Podcast IMPACT Series is presented by World Vision, a Christian humanitarian organization serving children and communities around the globe. Learn more at worldvision.org/RELEVANT.

New episodes drop here throughout the fall. Make sure to watch on YouTube!

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Episode 1270: Pastor Chris Durso on the State of the Church — ‘People Don’t Want Hype—They Want Jesus’

Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:30:54 +0000

Pastor Chris Durso joins us to talk about the shifting landscape of modern Christianity — why flashy churches are losing their influence, how Gen Z is reshaping faith communities, and what authenticity really looks like in a post-celebrity-pastor era.

Plus, the crew breaks down the biggest stories at the intersection of faith and culture, including Chandler Moore’s lawsuit against Maverick City Music's CEO, Project Pat's stunning salvation moment at a Memphis concert, the Taco Bell Ultra Marathon and the viral “Jericho dating strategy” at ORU. (FYI, it's glorious.)

Chapters:

05:00 – RELEVANT BUZZ Returns: The Maverick City Music lawsuit explained

12:20 – Project Pat leads a prayer of repentance in Memphis

15:15 – SLICES: The Taco Bell Ultra Marathon (why would anyone do this?)

22:30 – ORU freshmen attempt a “Jericho dating” stunt

27:00 – GUEST: Pastor Chris Durso joins the show

28:00 – Launching Good Company Church in NYC

32:00 – Why the showmanship era of church is over

35:30 – How COVID changed what people want from faith

38:40 – The danger of “celebrity Christianity”

41:00 – Building an honest, mature church culture

44:00 – Navigating politics and social issues from the pulpit

46:00 – Faith and the NBA: behind the scenes with team chaplains

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Episode 1269: Fabio Meets a Goose, SNL Meets Christian Movies, and Bad Youth Group Names!

Tue, 07 Oct 2025 09:30:33 +0000

It’s only our second-ever video episode, and things already get weird. (What's new?) The crew dives into the wildest stories this week — unpacking whether Instagram is really “not listening,” the lady who will name your baby for the low, low price of $30,000, and Emily uncovers the faith-filled backstory of SNL’s James Austin Johnson (spoiler: he started in Christian movies). Plus, we relive the legendary Fabio goose incident, cringe youth group names and a lot more!

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Video Podcast Transition

03:04 Audience Reactions and Expectations

05:58 Fabio's Roller Coaster Incident

08:59 Randy Johnson's Bird Incident

11:34 Celebrity Comparisons and Humor

14:40 Local Legends and Mount Trashmore

15:54 The Golden Era of Morning Radio

19:54 SLICES

24:48 The Business of Naming Babies

31:27 A New Mom Is a Gaming Superhero

33:13 Instagram's Controversial Listening Claims

34:33 Exploring Social Media Manipulation

39:15 An SNL Cast Member's Christian Movie Past

44:19 ASK THE CAST

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Episode 1268: It's Our First Video Podcast!

Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:30:15 +0000

This week, we try a bunch of new things that may (or may not) live on, but we want you to check it out and tell us what you think about the new format. We have some big announcements about the new video era of the show at the beginning, and then Slices is back! Jesse brings some vital squirrel news, Derek brings the dystopian future of drone surveillance, and Emily brings a heart check about sharing our faith that spurs an unexpected conversation. At the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast, and definitely connect with us on Instagram @RELEVANTpodcast or YouTube to tell us what you think about the new format!

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Episode 1267: Matthew McConaughey

Fri, 19 Sep 2025 09:30:51 +0000

Today we're joined by actor Matthew McConaughey for a fascinating conversation about faith, prayer and cynicism. Plus, this week Slices is back! Jesse brings the Aquatic Conspiracy and Crimes beat, and Emily brings some surprising vintage media news. And at the end of the show, we have a hilarious round of 'One Has to Go'!

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Episode 1266: Lecrae

Fri, 12 Sep 2025 09:30:12 +0000

Today we're joined by Christian hip-hop icon Lecrae. He just released his 10th album, Reconstruction, and we talk about legacy, impact and the future of Christian hip-hop. Plus, Derek tells us all about his new album that's releasing next week — and took 6 years to make. In RELEVANT Buzz, we dive into the crazy 1st concert being hosted at the Vatican, a surprising study about which generation attends church the most, the tough job market facing twentysomethings, and Carrie Underwood leading worship at her local church. And at the end the show, we have a hilarious edition of 'One Has to Go!'

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Episode 1265: Issue 117 Revealed

Sat, 06 Sep 2025 02:05:24 +0000

Today, instead of a guest interview, we give you the first look at the new digital issue of RELEVANT! It features a stacked line-up, and we can't wait for you to hear about it. Plus, we have RELEVANT Buzz, covering the bold faith of 'The Summer I Turned Pretty' star Gavin Casalegno, a new job that will pay you for scrolling social media all day, and the movie theater that had a Catholic bishop blessing people with holy water before they watched the new 'Conjuring' horror film. Plus, we have 'One Has to Go' and a lot more!

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Episode 1264: Willie Robertson

Fri, 29 Aug 2025 09:30:53 +0000

This week we're joined by reality TV star and CEO of Duck Commander, Willie Robertson! Plus, in Slices we tackle everything from the impact of TikTok on our brains to the ethically questionable thing the Chinese are now doing with robots. The guys of course discuss this week's big engagement news, we learn more about the important work of Sole Hope, and at the end of the show we have 'One Has to Go!'

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Episode 1263: Allison Eide

Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:30:10 +0000

Today we're joined by Allison Eide, an indie artist that's exploding right now. We talk about her viral hit, "IDK," how mental health has shaped her faith journey and a lot more. Plus, we have RELEVANT Buzz, covering SNL star Ego Nwodim opening up about how she labels her faith now, news that Americans are historically sober, and Jets QB Justin Fields' surprising addiction. The cast discusses travel weariness, "MacGruber" and Nate Bargatze's new tour, and at the end of the show we have One Has to Go, including Jesse's Tom Cruise observation that will forever change how you see his movies.

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Episode 1262: Nathan Davis Jr.

Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:30:27 +0000

Today we're joined by actor, artist and viral sensation Nathan Davis Jr! We talk about his surprising shift to Christian music, his viral breakout, creativity and a lot more! Plus, in RELEVANT Buzz we cover the seemingly weekly Forrest Frank news, AI Jesus chatbots and the Jonas Brothers bringing out Switchfoot for a huge stadium show. At the end of the show we have One Has to Go, and don't miss our conversations about authenticity in Christian music and a lot more!

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Episode 1261: Tony Hale

Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:30:30 +0000

Today we're joined by actor Tony Hale! You know him from Veep, Arrested Development and a million other iconic roles—but now, he’s taking on something a little different. He stars in Sketch, a new film that dives into the power of creativity, healing and facing your fears. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, including Forrest Frank's crazy last two weeks, and a deep dive conversation about the Maverick City Music controversy that's been filling up social media the last couple of weeks. And of course, at the end of the show we have One Has to Go!

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Episode 1260: Strings and Heart

Fri, 01 Aug 2025 14:51:15 +0000

Our guests today are Strings & Heart, a Christian indie rock group that's exploding right now. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, including new analysis on the state of modern worship (specifically who's writing all the songs), some news out of Washington about the role of faith in federal workplaces, and boxer Manny Pacquiao's surprising plans for his fight weeks. We also have our RELEVANT Recommends pick of the week, and at the end of the show it's 'One Has to Go'!

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Episode 1259: Circuit Rider Music

Fri, 25 Jul 2025 09:30:24 +0000

Our guests today are Lindy Cofer and Eniola Abioye from Circuit Rider Music, the worship movement based in Huntington Beach, California. We talk about how Gen Z's hunger for God is shaping their mission and ministry. Plus, in RELEVANT Buzz we cover Brandon Lake's response to the criticism he's been receiving (from Christians) about collaborating with mainstream artists, streamer Ninja sharing a devotional that's been challenging his faith (in a good way), and the notable cast coming together for Fox's upcoming miniseries on the women of Genesis. Plus, we do a deep dive on the new season of the 'Shiny Happy People' docuseries exploring the Teen Mania story, and at the end of the show it's 'One Has to Go'!

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Episode 1258: Sons of Sunday

Fri, 18 Jul 2025 09:30:53 +0000

Today we're joined by Pat Barrett and Chris Brown from the new worship supergroup Sons of Sunday! They tell us how the unexpected project came together (and how Pat thought it was going to be a metal group). Plus, Emily is back from her Cowboy Carter trip and brings the week's RELEVANT Buzz — covering everything from the divided Superman reactions, to Kat Von D's next step in her spiritual journey, to a new study that reveals Gen Z is being a lot more selective in dating. And at the end of the show, we have the hardest edition of 'One Has to Go' yet!

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Episode 1257: Jon Keith

Fri, 11 Jul 2025 09:30:36 +0000

Today we're joined by Jon Keith, who just released an innovative, vulnerable new album, GROW WINGS. He opens up about it and everything that's been going on in his life this past year—it's a can't-miss conversation. Plus, we mix things up this week and have Slices, from Brandon Lake's bold grooming decisions to a surprising Hollywood blockbuster that just got announced. The guys also unpack summer travel, theme parks, movie IP and a lot more. And at the end of the show, we have a hilarious edition of One Has to Go!

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Episode 1256: Bodie

Fri, 04 Jul 2025 09:30:45 +0000

Today we're joined by exciting new artist Bodie, who you probably remember from season 22 of 'The Voice.' We talk about his calling, crazy journey and more. Plus, after a deep dive into Jesse's Common Sense Party platform and a debate about the most cringe 'Office' episodes, we have RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from NFL superstar Saquon Barkley becoming a Christian, to science's surprising findings about night owls, to a really interesting new Amazon show debuting later this month. And at the end of the show, we have an unmissable edition of our annual July 4th game, "Rock Band or Firework?"

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Episode 1255: nobigdyl.

Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:30:04 +0000

Today we're joined by one of our favorite rappers — NPR Tiny Desk Fan Favorite nobigdyl! He just released an amazing EP with Kato on the Track, and we get the story of how it all came together. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, with big news for Brandon Lake and Jelly Roll, less great news for Newsboys, a study about the positive life impact of attending church, and an internet betting trend you might want to avoid. And speaking of avoid, at the end of the show we have One Has to Go!

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Episode 1254: Dallas Jenkins

Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:30:54 +0000

This week we're joined by 'The Chosen' show runner and director Dallas Jenkins! We talk about the global phenomenon, season 5 (which debuted on Prime this week) and what project he's working on next. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz — covering everything from Rodney Jerkins on 'The Breakfast Club' calling out the music industry for ignoring Christian artists, to a new warning about the rapidly shifting life/work balance, to a gospel legend's remarkable cover of a Frank Ocean song. And at the end of the show, we have 'One Has to Go' and a big announcement from Marty!

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Episode 1253: Jay Manwell

Fri, 13 Jun 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Our guest today is Christian R&B duo Jay Manwell! The brothers from Abilene, Texas, are creating some incredible music and absolutely are a group to watch as they explode. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, which covers everything from GloRilla's unexpected gospel BET award win, to Michael Tait speaking out this week about the scandal surrounding him, to the surprising tactic the NY Jets are using to bring the team together this offseason. And at the end of the show, we of course of a Father's Day edition of One Has to Go!

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Episode 1252: Elevation Rhythm

Fri, 06 Jun 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Josh Holiday from Elevation Rhythm! We talk about the big tour they just did and hear more about the band’s brand-new album, Victory Lap. Plus we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz — from Indiana Pacers star Tyrese Haliburton's newfound faith, to the surprising way AI is changing mental health, to some big news from The Chosen. And of course, at the end of the show we have a summer edition of One Has to Go!

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Episode 1251: Tauren Wells

Fri, 23 May 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by worship artist and author Tauren Wells! This week he released his debut book talking about joy — a topic that gets largely overlooked (or misunderstood) in the Church. Plus, for those of you who've asked us to bring Slices back — you're in luck! And at the end of the show, it's a Memorial Day edition of One Has to Go!

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Episode 1250: Cautious Clay

Fri, 16 May 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we’re joined by genre-defying artist Cautious Clay, who tells us about the process behind his new album, The Hours: Morning! Plus, in RELEVANT Buzz, two Christian hits have broken into the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time in over a decade, and we talk about why Brandon Lake and Forrest Frank are redefining industry momentum. Plus we have the notable news from all the TV up-fronts happening this week, and some surprising legislation that got filed this week. Plus, the crew reflects on the podcast’s 20th anniversary, the one-sided "rivalry" we had with Joel Osteen in the early years, and Jesse still being bitter about Osteen standing us up at the Nik Wallenda high wire stunt. And at the end of the show, the crew plays another round of One Has to Go—play along!

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Episode 1249: Mike Foster

Fri, 09 May 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by author Mike Foster! We talk about his fascinating work around the 7 primal questions — it's an eye-opening conversation you can't miss. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from a record-setting baptism event, to The Chosen's box office impact, to scientists that figured exactly when you become an adult (it's later than you think) and nobigdyl's big NPR Tiny Desk news. And yes, in the midst of all that Jesse and Marty come up with some fresh suggestions to pump up the Sunday morning church experience. At the end of the show, we have another edition of One Has to Go! And Derek might or might not be on a life-changing trip this week.

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Episode 1248: Gracie Binion

Fri, 02 May 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by indie worship artist Gracie Binion! We talk about her fight to create a pure, authentic worship space and how she’s carving out her own path in the Christian music scene. Plus, well, if you're not interested in the whole "can one gorilla beat 100 men" debate, just fast-forward to Gracie's interview, because that's half the show. (Not really. But kinda. And Cameron does have an unreal gorilla story.) In RELEVANT Buzz, we talk about the big recent moments from Brandon Lake and Jelly Roll, nobigdyl is making waves again with his NPR Tiny Desk contest submission, and it turns out that 45% of guys 18-25 have never asked a girl out in person. We have some advice. At the end of the show, don't miss One Has to Go!

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Episode 1247: One Voice Worship

Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of our favorite worship collectives, One Voice! Co-founder Gospel Chidi joins us to talk about the band’s new album and how the group keeps the essential things essential. Plus, Jesse's back and Emily's out, so it's an all boy's episode — you've been warned. We cover everything from police Chick-fil-A deliveries to aliens being real to coverups of technology that could destroy the world. And at the end of the show, it's another edition of "One Has to Go"!

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Episode 1246: TAYA

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by worship artist TAYA, who just released her highly anticipated sophomore solo album. It came out of a chaotic, restless season of her life, from becoming a new mom to facing a cancer diagnosis, and she tells us all about it. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz — from what's really happening when you're rewatching your comfort shows, to some positive news about Bible engagement in our generation, to the news a new social network might be on the way. Plus, at the end of the show we have another round of "One Has to Go!"

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Episode 1245: Jonathan Roumie

Fri, 11 Apr 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by none other than Jonathan Roumie, who you know as Jesus in 'The Chosen'! We talk about the highly anticipated season 5, and the challenges of bringing the humanity of Jesus to the big screen. Plus, after discussing Internet trolls we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from an unexpected moment of healthy boundaries on a hit dating show, to a new study showing a lot more people have decided to follow Jesus in the last 5 years than many realized, to the contestant on 'American Idol' that is taking everyone to CHURCH. And at the end of the show, we have "One Has to Go"!

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Episode 1244: John Mark McMillan

Fri, 04 Apr 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by John Mark McMillan! He's dropping his new album, Cosmic Supreme, and we talk about his decision to step away from worship music for a decade while navigating a faith crisis, and his decision to step back into it as he’s reconstructing his faith. It’s a fascinating and vulnerable conversation. Plus, it's Jesse's birthday! We celebrate by playing a new game, "WWJD (What Would Jesse Do?)". Plus, we of course talk about the viral Marvin Sapp offering video and have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from some big Jesus box office news, to a new study that found fascinating links between prayer and neuroscience, and the story of the stranded NASA astronaut who still attended church each week while stuck in space!

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Episode 1243: Aloe Blacc

Fri, 28 Mar 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by R&B legend Aloe Blacc! He has a new project out that not only has great music, but also makes a big impact. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, featuring everything from Chris Pratt explaining fasting to Stephen Colbert, to some surprisingly vulnerable talk about faith and emotional health in the women's Sweet 16, to the deeply Christian origins of basketball (God's favorite sport?). And lastly, NEW THEME SONG, WHO DIS? The evolution of the show continues, and we want to hear what you think! Hit us up on our new podcast IG account: @RELEVANTpodcast

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Episode 1242: Jenn Johnson

Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by worship leader Jenn Johnson! We talk about all the new stuff she's working on this year (like her first solo album), as well what it looks like to incorporate worship into all aspects of our lives. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz — from Denzel Washington's inspiring speech to the Colorado football team, to South Korea's unexpected approach to solving low birth rates, to Jonathan Roumie's very unexpected past acting gig. And at the end of the show we celebrate March Madness by picking our bracket based solely on the actual team mascots!

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Episode 1241: Blessing Offor

Fri, 14 Mar 2025 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Blessing Offor! You might know him from The Voice or from his hit songs like “Brighter Days” and “Believe,” but beyond the music, Blessing has a mission and we talk to him about it. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz — from Detroit Pistons star Jaden Ivey, to a new study that figured out how long it takes your brain to break its phone addiction, to Christopher Nolan's new epic. And at the end of the show we have Ask the Cast Part Deux!

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Episode 1240: John Eldredge

Fri, 07 Mar 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Our guest today is author and therapist John Eldredge! He’s written iconic books like Wild at Heart, and we talk to him about his latest, Experience Jesus. Really. You don't want to miss this conversation. Plus, if you like the intersection of faith and culture, this is the episode for you. We have deep dives on The Weeknd's surprising turn, Mumford & Son's worship era and Marvin Sapp's iconic Tiny Desk moment. Plus at the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast!

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Episode 1239: Filmmaker Jon Erwin

Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by the man behind the new Amazon series "House of David" and a lot of the non-cheesy Christian movies that have come out over the last few years—Jon Erwin. We talk about his new project and his vision for the future of Christian content. Plus, the crew brings the week's Slices, ranging from the unsurprising fact no one watched the Oscar-nominated films, to the surprising faith story of the top college basketball team, to Gen Z's financial outlook (spoiler alert: it's stressful). And at the end of the show, we put the cast's fringe Florida knowledge to the test with the game "Is It a Florida Headline or Not?"

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Episode 1238: Joseph O’Brien

Tue, 25 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by new Christian artist Joseph O’Brien, who made his mark on 'America's Got Talent' and has released some great music leading up to his label debut album this year. We talk to him about his journey, his new music and his top 5 Christian pop punk bands of all time. Plus, well, it's a weird one. If you like deep dives on napping culture, haunted mattresses, space camp, ducks running radio stations and ironic beaver names, this is the episode for you.

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Episode 1237: Amanda Cook

Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by worship artist Amanda Cook, who just released her new project 'SURVEY: Part 2'! We get into her heart and purpose behind the live series. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering Ariana Grande's challenge to the music industry to prioritize artists' mental health (and Derek and Marty's hot takes on that), some eye-popping stats about betting on the recent Super Bowl and what they might mean, and some big news for 'The Chosen.' And at the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast, which gets fully off the rails.

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Episode 1236: Jonathan Pokluda

Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by pastor and author Jonathan Pokluda for a fascinating conversation about spiritual warfare! And speaking of fascinating conversations — don't miss the science and space talk in Slices. And yes, we also cover trivial stuff like Emily's 4th grade field trip gone wrong and Cameron's FOMO. At the end of the show, we have your hilarious feedback about iconic movies.

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Episode 1235: Rodney 'Darkchild' Jerkins

Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of the biggest producers in music history — Rodney "Darkchild" Jerkins. We talk about his career, his new Christian hip-hop label and more. Plus, after our Valentine's Day banter, we have this week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from a surprising survey of Christians' attitudes toward refugees to Tim Robinson's new movie that we're pretty excited about. At the end of the show, don't miss our Valentine's game — Is It a Love Song or Worship Song? (Marty doesn't do well.)

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Episode 1234: Judah Smith

Tue, 11 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

It's episode 1234 (it happens like once a millennium), and we're joined by pastor Judah Smith! We have an unexpected conversation about faith and mental health you don't want to miss. Plus, we deal with Jesse's tech issues (and tech avoidance) and bring the week's Slices: The Church of England's big stance against gluten-free communion (Jesse has a very thoughtful take that unfortunately gets undercut at the last minute), as well as a new AI that will help you do even less in this remote work era (no, we're not advocating for it). At the end of the show, we have your feedback about core family memories ... and somehow it becomes all about the movie 'Flubber.'

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Episode 1233: Elevation Worship's Chris Brown

Fri, 07 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

In this episode, we sit down with Chris Brown of Elevation Worship to discuss their latest acoustic project, the formation of a new worship supergroup, and the journey of being known (by us) as “the good Chris Brown.” In RELEVANT Buzz, we dive into Doechii’s surprising Grammy speech about faith and sobriety, Patrick Mahomes’ bold Super Bowl faith statement and Lauren Daigle’s big Super Bowl moment. Plus at the end, the crew crowns the ultimate Super Bowl snack with a hotly contested bracket showdown.

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Episode 1232: Tyler Staton

Tue, 04 Feb 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Portland pastor and head of 24-7 Prayer USA, Tyler Staton! He has a new book out about the Holy Spirit, and our convo is a must-listen for any believer. Plus, the cast talks about the spontaneous journey Drew Holcomb's recent podcast interview sent Cameron on, and we have the week's Slices — from a secretive deep sea base project, to Gen Z ghosting job offers, to last year's most-binged show being revealed (we're disappointed in you, America). And at the end of the show, we have your feedback about your "favorite" weird, real laws!

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Episode 1231: Andy Mineo

Fri, 31 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

We're joined by Christian hip-hop icon Andy Mineo, who's taken a few years away from the spotlight and is now coming back with a new focus that he tells us all about. Plus, we take minute to highlight the amazing new stuff our very own cast is putting out lately — you won't want to miss that — and we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, from the new Jelly Roll Brandon Lake collab, to boygenius' Lucy Dacus' love for Rich Mullins, to our thoughts on the upcoming final season of 'The Righteous Gemstones.' At the end of the show we have a round of Table Topics that gets into some Christian childhood nostalgia that you don't want to miss!

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Episode 1230: Ian Morgan Cron

Tue, 28 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by author and psychotherapist Ian Morgan Cron. You know him as the "Enneagram guy," but today we talk about a very different topic: addiction and recovery. He opens up about his own journey with it, and makes a pretty compelling case that it's something we all deal with at some level. Plus, after the cast does a deep-dive into the Moment lip-reading is having, we have the week's Slices — Jesse makes a compelling case for a new national anthem, Emily brings up some weird driving laws, and Derek takes things completely sideways with some new AI advancement news. And at the end of the show, we have your feedback about new holidays you'd like to see added to the calendar!

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Episode 1229: Johnnyswim

Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of our favorite duos, Johnnyswim, who are FINALLY releasing a new album! We talk to them about the vulnerability of the project, how they overcame some big physical and emotional challenges over the last few years, and some great advice they have for the rest of us. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering the major Jesus aspect of the college football championship, the Grammy-winning artist who's suing Travis Scott for stealing her Christian song, and more. And at the end of the show, we have "Hot Mic Hot Takes"—don't miss it!

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Episode 1228: Jinger Duggar Vuolo

Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by '19 Kids and Counting' alum, Jinger Duggar Vuolo! She's taken a very different path since the show, and we talk to her about the trap of people pleasing so many of us find ourselves in. Plus, the cast comes up with ideas for making the best of this time of year, we have the week's Slices — from an interesting clue about the new Greta Gerwin 'Narnia' movie, to the president of Bumble's prediction about the future of online dating. And at the end of the show, we have your feedback about the best relationship advice you've gotten!

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Episode 1227: Drew and Ellie Holcomb

Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Drew and Ellie Holcomb, who release a highly anticipated album together next week — and you get the first listen. Plus, Marty updates us on the situation in LA, and we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from an NBA star talking boldly about his faith to a closer look at the Church in China, to Mel Gibson's latest update on "Passion of the Christ 2: Electric Boogaloo." And at the end of the show we have a segment you do not want to miss: "25 to Life Lessons"!

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Episode 1226: Dr. Sarah Hensley

Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Christian psychologist and relational expert, Dr. Sarah Hensley. She breaks down attachment styles and how they impact our relationships — it's a must-listen! Plus, we have the week's Slices, from Meta's announcement about removing fact-checkers, to Marvel possibly making a major change with Black Panther movies, to a surprising report that college costs (and loans) are dropping. And at the end of the show, we have your 2025 predictions!

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Episode 1225: King's Kaleidoscope

Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of our favorite bands, King's Kaleidoscope! Chad Gardner talks to us about their new experimental project that you need to check out. Plus, the cast talks about taking risks in art — not just music, but movies and more — and we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from a big announcement from Rolling Loud, to Jesus showing up in the college football bowl season and more.

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Episode 1224: Connor Price

Tue, 07 Jan 2025 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by breakout artist Connor Price! He's a content creator, musician and actor — someone who is doing it all and blowing up right now. Plus, it's our first episode of the new year and we'll admit, it's a little chaotic. For Slices, Marty brings some sort of Apple update (we think?), Emily talks about her excitement for plans to create a moonbase and Derek talks about a new AI-powered cruise ship on the way that he's super excited about. At the end of the show, we have your feedback on what directors you'd like to see take on what stories next.

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Episode 1223: Chris Durso

Tue, 31 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

It's our last episode of 2024, and we're joined by pastor Chris Durso, who's leading a new kind of faith community in NYC. Plus, the guys lean into the new year conversation, having a vulnerable talk about resolutions (or lack thereof), Mike Foster's primal questions and the importance of embracing new approaches to life in 2025. Plus, we have the week's Slices, including Christopher Nolan's surprising new project, a new podcast that's exploring the tension between reality and faith, and of course a Big Lots update. And at the end of the show we have your feedback about the best advice you've gotten on social media!

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Episode 1222: Nate Bargatze

Tue, 24 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

It's our Christmas episode and we're joined by the biggest comedian in the world — Nate Bargatze! He just hosted a primetime CBS variety show last week and today debuts his new standup special on Netflix, and here's here to tell us all about both (plus, what it's like hosting SNL). Also, the cast brings the week's Slices — including some creative justice at a WingStop, some crazy music news and more — and at the end of the show we play "5 Second Rule: Christmas Edition"! It's a fun one.

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Episode 1221: Christine Caine

Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of our faith heroes — author, speaker and advocate Christine Caine! We have a conversation we can all use at the end of 2024: How to reflect on the past with joy and look to the future with hope. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from comedian Matt Rife's surprising baptism announcement, to the unorthodox place Gen Z is getting their financial advice, to comedian Dustin Nickerson making his Tonight Show debut. At the end of the show, we have your feedback about when the timeline broke!

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Episode 1220: Girls Gone Bible

Tue, 17 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Angela Hall and Arielle Reitsma, co-hosts of the hugely popular Girls Gone Bible podcast! We talk to them about why they started the show and how they've stayed grounded with such quick success. Plus, the cast does a deep dive on pledges and the appeal of the Amish (yes, really) and for Slices, we cover the tangible benefits of not knowing everything that's happening all the time, as well as the shocking number of young adults not going home this Christmas to avoid family conflict. And at the end of the show, we have Christmas Quandaries Pt. 2!

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Episode 1219: Housefires

Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of our favorite worship collectives, Housefires! We talk to them about their new project, spontaneous worship, mission and more. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering everything from the first Christian presence at the world's largest hip-hop festival, to the Pope's advice for pastors' sermon lengths, to the surprising thing that inspired Jalen Suggs and an unexpected Orlando Magic win. At the end of the show, we have your feedback about your unexpected Spotify Wrapped results!

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Episode 1218: Bob Goff

Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by author/lawyer/hero Bob Goff — one of our all-time favorite guests. Do NOT miss our conversation about creating intentional whimsy in our lives. Plus, we have the week's Slices, which include an unorthodox measure churches in England are using to attract new congregants, as well as Emily's report on the state of dating in 2024 (spoiler: it's bleak). But Jesse lifts our spirits with the news a certain chain restaurant is coming back decades after a nasty Hepatitis outbreak. (Yes, it's connected.) And at the end of the show we have a new game, Christmas Quandaries, where we solve very real-life holiday dilemmas.

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Episode 1217: Joel Houston

Fri, 06 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by one of the most influential people in modern worship — Joel Houston! We have an exclusive conversation about his new experimental worship project, AMXNRADIO and how it took shape over the last few years. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz, covering some interesting trends revealed in Spotify's Wrapped this week, how Gen Z is the most in-debt generation yet, and how Forrest Frank's ascension is going to another level in 2025. And at the end of the show, we have your feedback about the trends you think are overhyped (like pickleball?).

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Episode 1216: Mark Batterson

Tue, 03 Dec 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by author Mark Batterson, who talks to us about recapturing wonder and the power that comes from looking for small miracles. Plus, the crew relives some Thanksgiving highlights, we have the week's Slices — from Pizza Hut trying too much, to Denzel's unforgettable Gladiator press junkets — as well as "Would You Rather? Christmas Edition!" And no matter what, don't miss the hilarious outtake at the end ...

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Episode 1215: Matt Redman

Wed, 27 Nov 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Worship icon Matt Redman joins us for our Thanksgiving episode! We talk to him about his new Christmas EP and why don't we sing about this year-round? Plus, we have RELEVANT Buzz covering everything from the viral Jameis Winston clip to the deeper trend of why celebs are more boldly speaking out about their faith these days, to why some major universities are making college free, to TikTok announcing some kinda crazy analog plans. Plus, at the end of the show we have Turkey Table Topics — conversation starters to help you just in case your family holiday convos get a tad awkward this weekend.

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Episode 1214: Riley Clemmons

Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Our guest today is Riley Clemmons! You probably know her from hits like “Fighting for Me” and “For the Good," and now she's just released a new Christmas project. Plus, we talk a lot about the Congressional alien hearings happening right now (even if it's not your thing, trust us it's a very thought-provoking conversation). Then we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz covering everything from big news from the Elton John 'Tammy Faye' Broadway musical, Coachella's questionable line-up announcement, Jesse's thoughts about pickleball, and a first look at nobigdyl's new acoustic hip-hop album. At the end of the show, we have your feedback about dream travel ideas!

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Episode 1213: Jim O'Heir

Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by Jim O'Heir, or as you know him, Jerry from 'Parks and Rec'! He has a new book out chronicling the behind-the-scenes of the show, and he gives us some good dirt on today's podcast. Plus, we have Slices, covering everything from the craziest attempt at a new Cabinet post, to an explainer of this whole B4 movement, to Warner Bros. auctioning the most epic vehicles ever. And at the end of the show, we have your most pressing Thanksgiving questions!

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Episode 1212: Mike Todd

Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:17:13 +0000

Today we're joined by pastor and author Mike Todd to talk about a pretty important topic — overcoming trauma and finding freedom. Plus, Derek and Cameron tell us about their trip to the Colorado mountains, and we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz covering everything from The Onion doing the greatest troll of all time to doom spending to Jim Gaffigan's new special. At the end of the show we have your feedback about weird features you want to see in cars!

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Episode 1211: Eugene Cho

Tue, 12 Nov 2024 14:49:25 +0000

Today we're joined by Eugene Cho for an eye-opening conversation about food insecurity in America and what Christians can do to help. Plus, the cast brings their usual ridiculousness, like the fact Jesse literally voted for someone based on how cool their nickname was, to crazy AI stuff and a lot more. And at the end of the show, don't miss the hilarious new game: "Is It a Real Holiday Tradition?"

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Episode 1210: CXMMXNS' Ben Fielding and Reuben Morgan

Fri, 08 Nov 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by former Hillsong United members Ben Fielding and Reuben Morgan! They've just launched a new worship collective called CXMMXNS and we talk to them about their vision and why they’re excited about the future of worship. Plus, we have the week's RELEVANT Buzz covering everything from the Christian rapper who will be on the new season of Hustle & Flow, to why Taylor Tomlinson got kicked off a Christian comedy tour, to a new study that says Gen Z loves staying home (and why that might be good for their health). And at the end of the show, we have your feedback about the weirdest things you've bought on the TikTok Shop!

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Episode 1209: Chad Veach

Tue, 05 Nov 2024 10:30:00 +0000

Our guest today is Chad Veach! He's the pastor of LA's Zoe Church and the author of books like "Worried About Everything Because I Pray About Nothing” and his latest, “I Bet You Think This Book Is About You.” We talk about pride and humility, and why it’s something Christians today can’t ignore. Also, the cast tackles the prosperity gospel, golf, Jesse's curious love of pranks, and the impact of celebrity culture on accountability. We also have the week's Slices — covering the major governmental intervention into broken McDonald's ice cream machines and a viral Timothée Chalamet lookalike contest that captivated New York City. At the end of the show, we have 'Would You Rather: Holiday Edition'!

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Episode 1208: Gallant

Fri, 01 Nov 2024 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by alt-R&B artist Gallant, who just released a fantastic new album. He opens up to us about stepping out from his label to become an independent artist, the freedom he finds through his work, and how faith and spirituality have been a source of inspiration for him. Plus, the cast delves into the evolving landscape of fame in the digital age, the significant number of Christians opting out of voting this year, the plateauing of the 'Nones'—which turns into a can't-miss conversation—and Marty drops a new album today! And at the end of the show, we have your feedback about your weirdest hobbies.

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Episode 1207: Benjamin William Hastings

Tue, 29 Oct 2024 09:30:00 +0000

Today we're joined by worship artist Benjamin William Hastings! You probably know him from his years with Hillsong United, but now he's releasing some amazing solo music. We talk to him about his new project — and what he means when he says he's a "recovering Deconstructionist." Plus, it's an all-boys episode (we're sorry) and things go predictably off the rails. We have the week's Slices, and at the end of the show we have another edition of Ask the Cast!

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Episode 1206: Malcolm Gladwell

Tue, 22 Oct 2024 09:30:00 +0000

In this episode we're joined by author Malcolm Gladwell, who talks to us about pro-social contagion and how small groups can drive significant societal change. The cast also announces the podcast's shift to one show a week, and Jesse reveals his harrowing Speed-esque car troubles. The conversation then shifts to Slices — including the impact of social media on mental health and concluding with a discussion on the ethical implications of AI-generated worship music, questioning the authenticity and spiritual impact of AI-generated content. And at the end of the show, we have Ask the Cast! A lot happens.

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Episode 1205: Bethel Music's David Funk

Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:30:00 +0000

In this episode, we're joined by David Funk from Bethel Music! Plus, Cameron apologizes for us missing the last episode — a hurricane prevented it unfortunately — and you hear his inspiring tale of surviving on Brioche bread. Derek joins late because of Emily, and then we have Slices — covering Netflix's new live talk show, Tesla's innovations in robotics, which may or may not delve into a discussion of WALL-E's predictions for humanity, and the implications of dream communication technology. At the end of the show, we have a new game called Guilty Confessions, revealing the quirks and guilty pleasures of the hosts.