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]]> episodic no Victor Vernissage v@humanode.io false full OpenServ's Tim Hafner on making agents reliable enough to trust with money OpenServ's Tim Hafner on making agents reliable enough to trust with money 1 1 Victor Vernissage OpenServ's Tim Hafner on making agents reliable enough to trust with money Tim Hafner, founder of OpenServ, on what has to change before an AI agent can be trusted to move money. Ask a language model the same thing a hundred times and it answers differently. That is tolerable in a draft and disqualifying in a payment. Tim founded OpenServ at the end of 2023 and builds reasoning infrastructure for AI agents. He bought his first Bitcoin in 2014 through LocalBitcoins, posting an envelope of cash to an address and hoping something came back. The conversation covers BRAID, the framework his CTO built to compile a vague English prompt into a decision graph the model has to run inside, so it cannot drift; why that lets a much smaller model do work that used to need a frontier one; why he thinks the moat in AI moved to data and distribution rather than disappearing; why he expects automation to collapse four roles into one person rather than delete four jobs; and what an AI with a controlling stake in Ethereum could do to the chain. Humanode: X https://x.com/humanode_io | Telegram https://t.me/humanode | Discord https://link.humanode.io/chat | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-node/ Tim Hafner: X https://x.com/open_founder | OpenServ https://www.openserv.ai | OpenServ on X https://x.com/openservai 00:00 Who is Tim Hafner 00:30 Buying Bitcoin in 2014 through LocalBitcoins 04:01 What was left for people without capital 05:57 What OpenServ builds on top of the models 08:09 Why AI agents fail at critical work 12:17 How long it takes to plug in 13:17 Frontier results out of a smaller model 16:32 Keeping customer data off US servers 19:07 Automating government work 23:14 AI accelerating institutions that are already broken 26:07 What happens when the electricity goes 28:24 Is there a moat in AI 34:20 Which jobs survive 38:15 An AI with a controlling stake in Ethereum 43:45 Close Tim Hafner, founder of OpenServ, on what has to change before an AI agent can be trusted to move money.

Tim founded OpenServ at the end of 2023 and builds reasoning infrastructure for AI agents. He bought his first Bitcoin in 2014 through LocalBitcoins, posting an envelope of cash to an address and hoping something came back. The conversation covers BRAID, the framework his CTO built to compile a vague English prompt into a decision graph the model has to run inside, so it cannot drift; why that lets a much smaller model do work that used to need a frontier one; why he thinks the moat in AI moved to data and distribution rather than disappearing; why he expects automation to collapse four roles into one person rather than delete four jobs; and what an AI with a controlling stake in Ethereum could do to the chain.

Humanode: X https://x.com/humanode_io | Telegram https://t.me/humanode | Discord https://link.humanode.io/chat | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-node/

Tim Hafner: X https://x.com/open_founder | OpenServ https://www.openserv.ai | OpenServ on X https://x.com/openservai

00:00 Who is Tim Hafner

00:30 Buying Bitcoin in 2014 through LocalBitcoins

04:01 What was left for people without capital

05:57 What OpenServ builds on top of the models

08:09 Why AI agents fail at critical work

12:17 How long it takes to plug in

13:17 Frontier results out of a smaller model

16:32 Keeping customer data off US servers

19:07 Automating government work

23:14 AI accelerating institutions that are already broken

26:07 What happens when the electricity goes

28:24 Is there a moat in AI

34:20 Which jobs survive

38:15 An AI with a controlling stake in Ethereum

43:45 Close

]]> <p>Tim Hafner, founder of OpenServ, on what has to change before an AI agent can be trusted to move money.</p><p>Tim founded OpenServ at the end of 2023 and builds reasoning infrastructure for AI agents. He bought his first Bitcoin in 2014 through LocalBitcoins, posting an envelope of cash to an address and hoping something came back. The conversation covers BRAID, the framework his CTO built to compile a vague English prompt into a decision graph the model has to run inside, so it cannot drift; why that lets a much smaller model do work that used to need a frontier one; why he thinks the moat in AI moved to data and distribution rather than disappearing; why he expects automation to collapse four roles into one person rather than delete four jobs; and what an AI with a controlling stake in Ethereum could do to the chain.</p><p>Humanode: X https://x.com/humanode_io | Telegram https://t.me/humanode | Discord https://link.humanode.io/chat | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-node/</p><p>Tim Hafner: X https://x.com/open_founder | OpenServ https://www.openserv.ai | OpenServ on X https://x.com/openservai</p><p>00:00 Who is Tim Hafner</p><p>00:30 Buying Bitcoin in 2014 through LocalBitcoins</p><p>04:01 What was left for people without capital</p><p>05:57 What OpenServ builds on top of the models</p><p>08:09 Why AI agents fail at critical work</p><p>12:17 How long it takes to plug in</p><p>13:17 Frontier results out of a smaller model</p><p>16:32 Keeping customer data off US servers</p><p>19:07 Automating government work</p><p>23:14 AI accelerating institutions that are already broken</p><p>26:07 What happens when the electricity goes</p><p>28:24 Is there a moat in AI</p><p>34:20 Which jobs survive</p><p>38:15 An AI with a controlling stake in Ethereum</p><p>43:45 Close</p> 68917ed1-efac-4acd-b0bc-7a923822d9e7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gCv5Qn3MVQ&list=PLYWMb_dTSFskuMJ2HJ-QhYxy7lDh7XQDH&pp=sAgC Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:34:54 +0000 2677 true