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        <itunes:subtitle>Empowering Church Leaders and Creatives to Grow Their Reach.</itunes:subtitle>
        <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
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                <itunes:title>The Growth Principle Pastors Are Too Afraid to Apply</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:title>Three Questions That Will Transform Your End-of-Year Giving Campaigns</itunes:title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>Why do some church giving campaigns dramatically outperform others while most fall flat—even when pastors faithfully mention them from the pulpit? The answer has nothing to do with how often you ask and everything to do with three strategic shifts that most churches completely miss. In this episode, I&#39;m revealing the uncomfortable truth about why your end-of-year giving campaigns might be working against you, the one preparation step you should have started in January (but it&#39;s not too late), and the transparency principle that separates churches that constantly fundraise from churches that move freely on what God calls them to do. If you&#39;re heading into Giving Tuesday or year-end campaigns and want to see the kind of results that can only come from God, this episode will challenge how you&#39;ve been thinking about generosity in your church. Fair warning: one of these three questions might make you rethink your entire approach.</p>]]></description>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 024 : Ask Me Anything Episode</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 024 : Ask Me Anything Episode Content Earlier this week I sent out a video on twitter and I asked the community if they had any questions for me to answer on my show. I had a great time answering these questions and giving my thoughts regarding the...</itunes:subtitle>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 023 : Let’s Make Better with Blaine Hogan</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 022 : God is in the Business of Miracles</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 021 : Do You Have A Culture of Survival? Content In this episode you’ll find my thoughts regarding a survival culture versus a creating culture within your church. I share how a survival culture can lead to stagnancy and a lack of momentum.</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL 021 : Do You Have A Culture of Survival? Content In this episode you’ll find my thoughts regarding a survival culture versus a creating culture within your church. I share how a survival culture can lead to stagnancy and a lack of momentum. I also share my thoughts on how to gain momentum within your […]</itunes:summary>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 020 : Give The Drummer Some In this episode I give you a ton of URL’s to check out. Announcements Celebrate My One Year Anniversary With Me! I celebrated my one year anniversary of being a podcaster!!! To celebrate I’m moving my show from a twice a...</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL 020 : Give The Drummer Some In this episode I give you a ton of URL’s to check out. Announcements Celebrate My One Year Anniversary With Me! I celebrated my one year anniversary of being a podcaster!!! To celebrate I’m moving my show from a twice a month released podcast to a weekly podcast. That […]</itunes:summary>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 019 : Family and Personal Updates In this episode I update you on all the amazing things God is doing in my life and my family’s lives. Announcements The Lead Conference Hosted by International Family Church October 22-24th,</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL 019 : Family and Personal Updates In this episode I update you on all the amazing things God is doing in my life and my family’s lives. Announcements The Lead Conference Hosted by International Family Church October 22-24th, 2014 CreativeChurchLeadership.com/lead Consulting Do you need help… launching your creative team? to make your worship experiences […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>CCL 019 : Family and Personal Updates </p><p>In this episode I update you on all the amazing things God is doing in my life and my family’s lives.</p><p>Announcements </p><p>The Lead Conference Hosted by International Family Church October 22-24th, 2014 CreativeChurchLeadership.com/lead </p><p>Consulting </p><p>Do you need help launching your creative team?</p>]]></description>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 018 : How to Build Successful Teams Announcements The Lead Conference Hosted by International Family Church October 22-24th, 2014 CreativeChurchLeadership.com/lead Creative Church Leadership Worship Course 8 Week Course Live Q&amp;A Get in on the soft ...</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL 018 : How to Build Successful Teams Announcements The Lead Conference Hosted by International Family Church October 22-24th, 2014 CreativeChurchLeadership.com/lead Creative Church Leadership Worship Course 8 Week Course Live Q&amp;A Get in on the soft launch with deep discounts CreativeChurchLeadership.com/WorshipCourse How to Build a Successful Team Know the purpose of your team Start with […]</itunes:summary>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 017 : The Myths of Creativity with David Burkus</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 017 : The Myths of Creativity with David Burkus David Bukus, author of The Myths of Creativity, is a professor at Oral Roberts University. He’s also a leadership expert and speaker. David debunks the so-called myths of the creative process and the ...</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL 017 : The Myths of Creativity with David Burkus David Bukus, author of The Myths of Creativity, is a professor at Oral Roberts University. He’s also a leadership expert and speaker. David debunks the so-called myths of the creative process and the stereotypical “creative artist.” David and I discuss some the the myths of […]</itunes:summary>
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                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;CCL 017 : The Myths of Creativity with David Burkus David Bukus, author of The Myths of Creativity, is a professor at Oral Roberts University. He’s also a leadership expert and speaker. David debunks the so-called myths of the creative process and the stereotypical “creative artist.” David and I discuss some the the myths of...&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>CCL 016 : Reigniting My Passion For What I Do Because of Cliff Ravenscraft</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:subtitle>CCL 016: Reigniting My Passion For What I Do Because of Cliff Ravenscraft Cliff Ravenscraft is an “unofficial” podcasting mentor of mine. I model a lot of what I do after him and how he podcasts. Cliff has produced over 30 podcast shows and between he ...</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL 016: Reigniting My Passion For What I Do Because of Cliff Ravenscraft Cliff Ravenscraft is an “unofficial” podcasting mentor of mine. I model a lot of what I do after him and how he podcasts. Cliff has produced over 30 podcast shows and between he and his wife, they’ve produced over 3000 episodes. They’ve […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>CCL 016: Reigniting My Passion For What I Do Because of Cliff Ravenscraft </p><p>Cliff Ravenscraft is an “unofficial” podcasting mentor of mine. I model a lot of what I do after him and how he podcasts. Cliff has produced over 30 podcast shows and between he and his wife, they’ve produced over 3000 episodes. </p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;CCL 016: Reigniting My Passion For What I Do Because of Cliff Ravenscraft &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cliff Ravenscraft is an “unofficial” podcasting mentor of mine. I model a lot of what I do after him and how he podcasts. Cliff has produced over 30 podcast shows and between he and his wife, they’ve produced over 3000 episodes. &lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>CCL 015 : Pray for Surf with Josh Roberts</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 015 : Pray for Surf with Josh Roberts</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>Creative Church Leadership Podcast CCL 015 : Pray for Surf with Josh Roberts In this episode Josh Roberts joins me again. We discuss his new book “Pray for Surf” and doing greater works than Jesus. Josh breaks down the principles of answering your call...</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>Creative Church Leadership Podcast CCL 015 : Pray for Surf with Josh Roberts In this episode Josh Roberts joins me again. We discuss his new book “Pray for Surf” and doing greater works than Jesus. Josh breaks down the principles of answering your calling and how they’re tied to your passions. We discuss the callings […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>Creative Church Leadership Podcast CCL 015 : Pray for Surf with Josh Roberts </p><p>In this episode Josh Roberts joins me again. We discuss his new book “Pray for Surf” and doing greater works than Jesus. Josh breaks down the principles of answering your calling and how they’re tied to your passions. </p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;Creative Church Leadership Podcast CCL 015 : Pray for Surf with Josh Roberts &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode Josh Roberts joins me again. We discuss his new book “Pray for Surf” and doing greater works than Jesus. Josh breaks down the principles of answering your calling and how they’re tied to your passions. &lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2014 04:34:31 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 013 : Does the Church Really Need Your Creative Gift and Rise of the Underdog with Guest Interview Josh Roberts</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 013 : Does the Church Really Need Your Creative Gift and Rise of the Underdog with Guest Interview Josh Roberts</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>In this episode I give a few of my thoughts on a scripture I came across and how it marked me. I also have a guest interview with Josh Roberts. Josh talks on his experience on growing a thriving youth group and building relationships.</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>In this episode I give a few of my thoughts on a scripture I came across and how it marked me. I also have a guest interview with Josh Roberts. Josh talks on his experience on growing a thriving youth group and building relationships. He also talks about his new book, Pray for Surf. He […]</itunes:summary>
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                <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 05:53:58 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 012 : The Social Church with Guest Interview Justin Wise</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 012 : The Social Church with Guest Interview Justin Wise</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>CCL012 : The Social Church with Guest Interview Justin Wise In this episode Social Media Guru Justin Wise discusses the importance of connecting with people through social media and why the church should learn to connect with people online.</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>CCL012 : The Social Church with Guest Interview Justin Wise In this episode Social Media Guru Justin Wise discusses the importance of connecting with people through social media and why the church should learn to connect with people online. You’ll also learn how to build trust online so that people will stop to listen to you. […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>CCL012 : The Social Church with Guest Interview Justin Wise </p><p>In this episode Social Media Guru Justin Wise discusses the importance of connecting with people through social media and why the church should learn to connect with people online. You’ll also learn how to build trust online so that people will stop to listen to you. </p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;CCL012 : The Social Church with Guest Interview Justin Wise &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this episode Social Media Guru Justin Wise discusses the importance of connecting with people through social media and why the church should learn to connect with people online. You’ll also learn how to build trust online so that people will stop to listen to you. &lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 00:49:48 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 011 : Are You a Creative or a Creator? An Interview with Photographer Austin Mann</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 011 : Are You a Creative or a Creator? An Interview with Photographer Austin Mann</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>In this episode you’ll find Leadership – It’s like a mirror. And a guest interview with photographer, Austin Mann. In the interview we discuss Austin Mann’s life changing story, who are you creating your art for?, and Creator or Creative,</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>In this episode you’ll find Leadership – It’s like a mirror. And a guest interview with photographer, Austin Mann. In the interview we discuss Austin Mann’s life changing story, who are you creating your art for?, and Creator or Creative, which are you? Links austinmann.com twitter.com/austinmann weld.com There was an issue loading your timed LeadBox™. Please check plugin […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode you’ll find Leadership – It’s like a mirror. And a guest interview with photographer, Austin Mann. In the interview we discuss Austin Mann’s life changing story, who are you creating your art for?, and Creator or Creative, which are you? Links austinmann.com twitter.com/austinmann weld.com </p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In this episode you’ll find Leadership – It’s like a mirror. And a guest interview with photographer, Austin Mann. In the interview we discuss Austin Mann’s life changing story, who are you creating your art for?, and Creator or Creative, which are you? Links austinmann.com twitter.com/austinmann weld.com &lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2014 23:36:52 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 010 : 5 Steps to Leveraging Your Church and Interview with Lee Cockerell</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 010 : 5 Steps to Leveraging Your Church and Interview with Lee Cockerell</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>On this episode you’ll find my 5 steps on how senior pastors and high level church leaders can leverage the people of the church toward one focus to make the most impact in the communities the serve. I also interview Lee Cockerell on this episode.</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>On this episode you’ll find my 5 steps on how senior pastors and high level church leaders can leverage the people of the church toward one focus to make the most impact in the communities the serve. I also interview Lee Cockerell on this episode. Links and Resources leecockerell.com @leecockerll Creating Magic: 10 Common Sense […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode you’ll find my 5 steps on how senior pastors and high level church leaders can leverage the people of the church toward one focus to make the most impact in the communities they serve. I also interview Lee Cockerell on this episode. </p><p>Links and Resources </p><ul><li>leecockerell.com </li><li>@leecockerell </li></ul>]]></description>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 21:45:08 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 009 : 1000 Piece Puzzle – It’s in the Details; and an Interview with Mike Sessler of Church Tech Weekly Podcast</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 009 : 1000 Piece Puzzle – It’s in the Details; and an Interview with Mike Sessler of Church Tech Weekly Podcast</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>IN THIS EPISODE In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on why I compare the weekend service to a 1000 piece puzzle. I also interview Mike Sessler of ChurchTechWeekly.com and ChurchTechArts.org. REFERENCES &amp; LINKS BOOKS: Deep &amp; Wide: Creating Churches ...</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>IN THIS EPISODE In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on why I compare the weekend service to a 1000 piece puzzle. I also interview Mike Sessler of ChurchTechWeekly.com and ChurchTechArts.org. REFERENCES &amp; LINKS BOOKS: Deep &amp; Wide: Creating Churches Unchurched People Love to Attend by Andy Stanley TOOLS: Apple iPad Air WEB: ChurchTechWeekly.com WEB: ChurchTechArts.org TWITTER: twitter.com/mikesessler […]</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on why I compare the weekend service to a 1000 piece puzzle. I also interview Mike Sessler of ChurchTechWeekly.com and ChurchTechArts.org. </p><p>REFERENCES &amp; LINKS BOOKS: </p><ul><li>Deep &amp; Wide: Creating Churches Unchurched People Love to Attend by Andy Stanley </li><li>Apple iPad Air</li><li>ChurchTechWeekly.com</li><li>ChurchTechArts.org</li><li>twitter.com/mikesessler </li></ul>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on why I compare the weekend service to a 1000 piece puzzle. I also interview Mike Sessler of ChurchTechWeekly.com and ChurchTechArts.org. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;REFERENCES &amp;amp; LINKS BOOKS: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Deep &amp;amp; Wide: Creating Churches Unchurched People Love to Attend by Andy Stanley &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Apple iPad Air&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChurchTechWeekly.com&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;ChurchTechArts.org&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;twitter.com/mikesessler &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:38:38 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 008 : How to Grow Your Church and a Conversation with Planning Center’s Co-founder, Aaron Stewart</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 008 : How to Grow Your Church and a Conversation with Planning Center’s Co-founder, Aaron Stewart</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on how to grow your church from the inside out and an interview with Planning Center’s co-founder, Aaron Stewart. Links planningcenteronline.com support@planningcenteronline.com Twitter.</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on how to grow your church from the inside out and an interview with Planning Center’s co-founder, Aaron Stewart. Links planningcenteronline.com support@planningcenteronline.com Twitter.com/planningcenter There was an issue loading your timed LeadBox™. Please check plugin settings.There was an issue loading your exit LeadBox™. Please check plugin settings.</itunes:summary>
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on how to grow your church from the inside out and an interview with Planning Center’s co-founder, Aaron Stewart. </p><p>Links </p><ul><li>planningcenteronline.com </li><li>support@planningcenteronline.com </li><li>Twitter.com/planningcenter</li></ul>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In this episode you’ll find my thoughts on how to grow your church from the inside out and an interview with Planning Center’s co-founder, Aaron Stewart. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Links &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;planningcenteronline.com &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;support@planningcenteronline.com &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Twitter.com/planningcenter&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2014 05:46:40 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 007 : A Conversation with Andrew Arbo. Bring Your Background Into Your Creativity, Why We Unashamedly Steal, and How We Prepped Differently for Christmas</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 007 : A Conversation with Andrew Arbo. Bring Your Background Into Your Creativity, Why We Unashamedly Steal, and How We Prepped Differently for Christmas</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>On this show I have a discussion with Andrew Arbo. Andrew is a volunteer at our church. He’s apart of the tech and camera crew, he’s acted in some of our videos, and even rapped on our stage. He’s done some of our creative writing and producing,</itunes:subtitle>
                <itunes:summary>On this show I have a discussion with Andrew Arbo. Andrew is a volunteer at our church. He’s apart of the tech and camera crew, he’s acted in some of our videos, and even rapped on our stage. He’s done some of our creative writing and producing, he’s a great idea guy and he’s a […]</itunes:summary>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 006 : Creating the Right Atmosphere and Why Web and Printed Content is as Important as the Message with Greg Vinnerholm</itunes:title>
                <title>CCL 006 : Creating the Right Atmosphere and Why Web and Printed Content is as Important as the Message with Greg Vinnerholm</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>In this episode you’ll find my take on creating the right atmosphere for your church and it doesn’t start with the preservice playlist. I also speak with Greg Vennerholm from Church on the Move in Tulsa, OK.</itunes:subtitle>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 003 : How to get started in film – Interview with Stew Redwine</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>In this episode you’ll find… Stew Redwine’s key to getting started. Plus a few funny stories from our past. Resources and Links Stew’s original movies at Worship House Media Stew produce 20 of these pieces for OneTimeBlind Parables Remix Stew wrote a f...</itunes:subtitle>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:48:01 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>CCL 002 : How to keep people from leaving your church by asking why and an interview with Stephen Brewster of Crosspoint Church</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Jamison Jones</itunes:author>
                <itunes:subtitle>In this episode you’ll find… How to get the “big win” in your services. The #1 Challenge we all face as creatives. How everyone is creative. Stephen’s resources for inspiration. Resources The War of Art by Steven Pressfield [Affiliate Link] StephenBrew...</itunes:subtitle>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:33:30 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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