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        <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
        <itunes:summary>In which two cranky old men discuss older books that are fun to read, for listeners who want to reconnect to a traditional popular culture.</itunes:summary>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>In which two cranky old men discuss older books that are fun to read, for listeners who want to reconnect to a traditional popular culture.</p>]]></description>
        
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            <itunes:name>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:name>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 028: Mostly Martian</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 028: Mostly Martian</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss a few of the works of Ray Bradbury, focusing mostly on his collection <em>The Martian Chronicles</em>, and consider that both his strengths and weaknesses stem from the fact that he was primarily a short story writer.  </p><p><a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss a few of the works of Ray Bradbury, focusing mostly on his collection &lt;em&gt;The Martian Chronicles&lt;/em&gt;, and consider that both his strengths and weaknesses stem from the fact that he was primarily a short story writer.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 027: Reading the Bible</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 027: Reading the Bible</title>

                
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss reading the Bible, and skipping over issues of faith and belief, consider which books of the Bible might be the most interesting to new readers, which are best to read in order, and which might be left for a later more compete reading of the Bible.</p><p><a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss reading the Bible, and skipping over issues of faith and belief, consider which books of the Bible might be the most interesting to new readers, which are best to read in order, and which might be left for a later more compete reading of the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 026: Poetry: Snarks and Garden Verses</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 026: Poetry: Snarks and Garden Verses</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>The Hunting of the Snark</em> (1876) by Lewis Carrol and <em>A Child’s Garden of Verses</em> (1885 ) by Robert Louis Stevenson, and consider that rhyming poetry is an ideal way to give children a love of words and language and that you don’t always have to understand everything to enjoy it. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;The Hunting of the Snark&lt;/em&gt; (1876) by Lewis Carrol and &lt;em&gt;A Child’s Garden of Verses&lt;/em&gt; (1885 ) by Robert Louis Stevenson, and consider that rhyming poetry is an ideal way to give children a love of words and language and that you don’t always have to understand everything to enjoy it. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 16:00:27 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 025: Two by Twain</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 025: Two by Twain</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Roughing It </em>(1872)<em> Tom Sawyer</em> (1876) both by Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain, and consider the humor of Twain’s self-deprecating narrator in a fictionalized memoir and the humor of the fictional Tom Sawyer outwitting the adults around him. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Roughing It &lt;/em&gt;(1872)&lt;em&gt; Tom Sawyer&lt;/em&gt; (1876) both by Samuel Clemens, aka Mark Twain, and consider the humor of Twain’s self-deprecating narrator in a fictionalized memoir and the humor of the fictional Tom Sawyer outwitting the adults around him. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 024: Girls’ Choices</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 024: Girls’ Choices</title>

                
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Vanity Fair </em>(1847/48)<em> </em>by William Thackery and <em>The Tombs of Atuan</em> (1971) by Ursula Leguin, and consider girls’ choices and their consequences, whether the girls be characters in a realistic 19<sup>th</sup> century novel or a priestess-in-training in a fantasy novel. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Vanity Fair &lt;/em&gt;(1847/48)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by William Thackery and &lt;em&gt;The Tombs of Atuan&lt;/em&gt; (1971) by Ursula Leguin, and consider girls’ choices and their consequences, whether the girls be characters in a realistic 19&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century novel or a priestess-in-training in a fantasy novel. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 023: War: Spanish and Fantasy</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>For Whom the Bells Toll </em>(1940)<em> </em>by Ernest Hemingway and <em>The Well of the Unicorn</em> (1948) by Fletcher Pratt, and consider Hemingway’s gritty tale of conflicting wartime loyalties in the Spanish civil war and a gritty high fantasy tale of conflicting wartime loyalties, published several years before Tolkien’s <em>Lord of the Rings</em> defined the fantasy genre. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;For Whom the Bells Toll &lt;/em&gt;(1940)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Ernest Hemingway and &lt;em&gt;The Well of the Unicorn&lt;/em&gt; (1948) by Fletcher Pratt, and consider Hemingway’s gritty tale of conflicting wartime loyalties in the Spanish civil war and a gritty high fantasy tale of conflicting wartime loyalties, published several years before Tolkien’s &lt;em&gt;Lord of the Rings&lt;/em&gt; defined the fantasy genre. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 022: Pride, Prejudice, and Elfland</itunes:title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Pride and Prejudice </em>(1813)<em> </em>by Jane Austen and <em>The King of Elfland’s Daughter</em> (1924) by Lord Dunsany, and consider the psychological and social insights of Austen’s beloved classic as compared to a fairy tale of love between moral and immortal, beyond the fields we know. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Pride and Prejudice &lt;/em&gt;(1813)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Jane Austen and &lt;em&gt;The King of Elfland’s Daughter&lt;/em&gt; (1924) by Lord Dunsany, and consider the psychological and social insights of Austen’s beloved classic as compared to a fairy tale of love between moral and immortal, beyond the fields we know. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 021: 19th Century New York, 30th Century America</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 021: 19th Century New York, 30th Century America</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>The Age of Innocence </em>(1920)<em> </em>by Edith Wharton and <em>City of Illusions</em> (1967) by Ursula LeGuin, and consider how a novel of high society New Yorkers and moral problems related to love and marriage parallels a novel of a not quite human man navigating problems on an alien dominated future Earth. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;The Age of Innocence &lt;/em&gt;(1920)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Edith Wharton and &lt;em&gt;City of Illusions&lt;/em&gt; (1967) by Ursula LeGuin, and consider how a novel of high society New Yorkers and moral problems related to love and marriage parallels a novel of a not quite human man navigating problems on an alien dominated future Earth. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 020: Slavery and the Civil War</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Twelve Years a Slave </em>(1853)<em> </em>by Solomon Northrup and <em>This Hallowed Ground</em> (1956) by Bruce Catton, non-fiction accounts of slavery and the civil war it engendered, and consider their ongoing relevance in the 21<sup>st</sup> century. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Twelve Years a Slave &lt;/em&gt;(1853)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Solomon Northrup and &lt;em&gt;This Hallowed Ground&lt;/em&gt; (1956) by Bruce Catton, non-fiction accounts of slavery and the civil war it engendered, and consider their ongoing relevance in the 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; century. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 019: Church Warfare</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 019: Church Warfare</title>

                
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Barchester Towers </em>(1857)<em> </em>by Anthony Trollope and consider how a comedy regarding situations unfamiliar to modern readers (in this case, 19<sup>th</sup> century Anglican Church politics) can nonetheless be funny and fun to read for its handling of timeless aspects of human nature and social interactions. Relevant to anyone ever affected by office politics. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Barchester Towers &lt;/em&gt;(1857)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Anthony Trollope and consider how a comedy regarding situations unfamiliar to modern readers (in this case, 19&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century Anglican Church politics) can nonetheless be funny and fun to read for its handling of timeless aspects of human nature and social interactions. Relevant to anyone ever affected by office politics. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 16:00:05 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Nicholas Nickleby </em>(1838-39)<em> </em>by Charles Dickens and <em>Just </em>W<em>illiam</em> (1922) by Richmal Crompton and consider the comedy of suffering dire circumstances and dire characters versus normal 11 year-old suffering. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Nicholas Nickleby &lt;/em&gt;(1838-39)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Charles Dickens and &lt;em&gt;Just &lt;/em&gt;W&lt;em&gt;illiam&lt;/em&gt; (1922) by Richmal Crompton and consider the comedy of suffering dire circumstances and dire characters versus normal 11 year-old suffering. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2026 16:00:25 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 017: Shipwrecked</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 017: Shipwrecked</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>The Coral Island </em>(1857)<em> </em>by R M. Ballantyne and <em>The Lord of the Flies </em>(1954) by William Golding and consider the differing worldviews of authors and critics regarding boys shipwrecked on tropical islands. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;The Coral Island &lt;/em&gt;(1857)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by R M. Ballantyne and &lt;em&gt;The Lord of the Flies &lt;/em&gt;(1954) by William Golding and consider the differing worldviews of authors and critics regarding boys shipwrecked on tropical islands. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2026 16:00:54 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 016: Mice, Men, and more Penrod</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 016: Mice, Men, and more Penrod</title>

                
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Of Mice and Men </em>(1937)<em> </em>by John Steinbeck and take a return visit to <em>Penrod</em> by Booth Tarkington (1914) and consider how changing social mores affect the reading of realistic novels from the past. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Of Mice and Men &lt;/em&gt;(1937)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by John Steinbeck and take a return visit to &lt;em&gt;Penrod&lt;/em&gt; by Booth Tarkington (1914) and consider how changing social mores affect the reading of realistic novels from the past. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2026 16:00:01 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 015: Murder and Spies</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 015: Murder and Spies</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>And Then There Were None (</em>aka <em>Ten Little Indians) </em>(1939)<em> </em>by Agatha Christie and <em>The Spy Who Came in from the Cold </em>(1963) by John le Carre and consider another Christie mystery as well as the roles of mystery and betrayal in spy novels. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;And Then There Were None (&lt;/em&gt;aka &lt;em&gt;Ten Little Indians) &lt;/em&gt;(1939)&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;by Agatha Christie and &lt;em&gt;The Spy Who Came in from the Cold &lt;/em&gt;(1963) by John le Carre and consider another Christie mystery as well as the roles of mystery and betrayal in spy novels. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2026 16:00:57 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 014: Death in the North Atlantic</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 014: Death in the North Atlantic</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>A Night to Remember </em>(1955) by Walter Lord, a non-fiction account of the Titanic disaster, and <em>The Cruel Sea </em>(1951) by Nicholas Monsarrat, a novel by about British convoys in the North Atlantic during World War II, and reflect on icebergs, U-boats, and hypothermia.  <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;A Night to Remember &lt;/em&gt;(1955) by Walter Lord, a non-fiction account of the Titanic disaster, and &lt;em&gt;The Cruel Sea &lt;/em&gt;(1951) by Nicholas Monsarrat, a novel by about British convoys in the North Atlantic during World War II, and reflect on icebergs, U-boats, and hypothermia.  &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2026 16:00:35 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 013: Murder - Gritty and Genteel</itunes:title>
                <title>When Books Were Fun Episode 013: Murder - Gritty and Genteel</title>

                
                
                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Farewell My Lovely</em> (1940) by Raymond Chandler and <em>The Mysterious Affair at Styles </em>(1916) by Agatha Chrisie and contrast the sub-genres of gritty urban mystery and genteel English country house mystery. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;Farewell My Lovely&lt;/em&gt; (1940) by Raymond Chandler and &lt;em&gt;The Mysterious Affair at Styles &lt;/em&gt;(1916) by Agatha Chrisie and contrast the sub-genres of gritty urban mystery and genteel English country house mystery. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 16:00:21 &#43;0000</pubDate>
                <itunes:duration>1531</itunes:duration>
                
                
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 012: Tarzan</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss the Tarzan stories of Edgar Rice Burroughs, particularly <em>Tarzan of the Apes </em>(1912), <em>The Return of Tarzan</em> (1913), <em>The Son of Tarzan </em>(1915), and <em>Jungle Tales of Tarzan </em>(1919). <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss the Tarzan stories of Edgar Rice Burroughs, particularly &lt;em&gt;Tarzan of the Apes &lt;/em&gt;(1912), &lt;em&gt;The Return of Tarzan&lt;/em&gt; (1913), &lt;em&gt;The Son of Tarzan &lt;/em&gt;(1915), and &lt;em&gt;Jungle Tales of Tarzan &lt;/em&gt;(1919). &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 16:00:24 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 011: Comedy -  Jeeves and Grand Fenwick</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>The Inimitable Jeeves</em> by P. G. Wodehouse (1923) and <em>The Mouse That Roared</em> by Leonard Wibberley (1955) and contrast the faux Edwardian humor of the Jeeves stories with Wibberley’s social satire regarding power politics and nuclear weapons. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;The Inimitable Jeeves&lt;/em&gt; by P. G. Wodehouse (1923) and &lt;em&gt;The Mouse That Roared&lt;/em&gt; by Leonard Wibberley (1955) and contrast the faux Edwardian humor of the Jeeves stories with Wibberley’s social satire regarding power politics and nuclear weapons. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2026 16:00:35 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 010: Comedy - Ernest and Crichton</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>The Importance of Being Earnest</em> by Oscar Wilde (1895) and <em>The Admirable Crichton</em> (1902) by J. M. Barrie, noting the humor of the trivial, and the relevance of these two plays to modern society. <a href="mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">whenbookswerefun@gmail.com</a> Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;The Importance of Being Earnest&lt;/em&gt; by Oscar Wilde (1895) and &lt;em&gt;The Admirable Crichton&lt;/em&gt; (1902) by J. M. Barrie, noting the humor of the trivial, and the relevance of these two plays to modern society. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 16:00:05 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 009: Reading Shakespeare</itunes:title>
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                <itunes:author>Al Anderson and Jeff Scott</itunes:author>
                
                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss the plays of William Shakespeare and why reading these plays can often be more entertaining and instructive than seeing them performed. whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss the plays of William Shakespeare and why reading these plays can often be more entertaining and instructive than seeing them performed. whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss &lt;em&gt;The History of&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Tom Jones&lt;/em&gt; by Henry Fielding (1749) and &lt;em&gt;Flashman&lt;/em&gt; by George MacDonald Fraser (1969) and discuss how tales of adultery and misbehavior might actually be moralistic, most definitely so in &lt;em&gt;Tom Jones&lt;/em&gt;, and somewhat indirectly in &lt;em&gt;Flashman&lt;/em&gt; and its sequels. &lt;a href=&#34;mailto:whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt; Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss novels about childhood, &lt;em&gt;Penrod&lt;/em&gt; by Booth Tarkington (1914) and &lt;em&gt;The Golden Age&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Dream Days&lt;/em&gt; by Kenneth Grahame (1895 and 1898) and ponder what aspects of childhood are determined by historical time and place, and what aspects are eternal.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 16:00:53 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 006: The English Riverside</itunes:title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss <em>Three Men in a Boat (To Say Nothing of the Dog) </em>by Jerome K. Jerome (1889) and <em>The Wind in the Willows </em>by Kenneth Grahame (1908) and contrast a (somewhat) factual account of three men (and a dog) boating on the Thames with a child’s fantasy of Mole, Rat, Badger, and Mr. Toad, and their adventures along a river and the English countryside.</p><p>whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2026 16:00:22 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun Episode 005: Homer’s Odyssey</itunes:title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss Homer’s Odyssey and why reading a poem that’s several thousand years old might be more entertaining that watching its movie adaption.</p><p>whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss Homer’s Odyssey and why reading a poem that’s several thousand years old might be more entertaining that watching its movie adaption.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2026 16:00:59 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <itunes:title>When Books Were Fun 004: Freddy the Pig</itunes:title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss some of the Freddy the Pig books of Walter R. Brooks and their depiction of the Bean farm and a traditional 20<sup>th</sup> century America, Freddy’s vocation as a detective, and his relationships with the other animals, not to mention <em>Freddy and the Baseball Team from Mars</em>. whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss some of the Freddy the Pig books of Walter R. Brooks and their depiction of the Bean farm and a traditional 20&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; century America, Freddy’s vocation as a detective, and his relationships with the other animals, not to mention &lt;em&gt;Freddy and the Baseball Team from Mars&lt;/em&gt;. whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 16:00:43 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss children’s picture books in general, focusing mostly on the works of Dr. Seuss, and emphasize the importance of reading to children. whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 16:00:26 &#43;0000</pubDate>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which we discuss the Sherlock Holmes stories of Arthur Conan Doyle, focusing mostly on <em>The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes</em> (1892). whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p>]]></description>
                <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;In which we discuss the Sherlock Holmes stories of Arthur Conan Doyle, focusing mostly on &lt;em&gt;The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes&lt;/em&gt; (1892). whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
                
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                <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In which two cranky old men attempt to convince you the listener that popular fiction used to be fun before publishing, libraries, and education became politicized and that traditionalists, homeschooling families, and anyone looking for a good read should consider the popular works discussed here. whenbookswerefun@gmail.com Check out Al’s stories at sonrisestories.com. Check out Jeff’s upcoming book at perebruinpress.com.</p><p><br></p>]]></description>
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